• MotoAsh@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Those pushing the sexist zeitgeist are seldom the ones suffering from it. As in, generally speaking, it’s not an average guy that sits there and thinks, “man I wish I could wear a dress right now without being ridiculed.”. Pretty sure that’s what they mean.

    Joke’s still funny though because it’s pointing at how stupid the sexist zeitgeist even is. Even if it’s leveraging a bad thing, it’s aware of and making fun of the bad thing. That’s what a good real-world joke does. No one celebrates George Carlin for saying nice things.

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      11 months ago

      Ehhhhh. Victims? Maybe. But that doesn’t mean that they’re innocent. How many of those dudes who are pressured by society then villify and hate those who are gay? How many times have LGBTQ+ folk been hurt because someone was upset about the simple perception of being gay? Fuck sakes there’s a legal argument called Gay Panic that has absolutely worked where straight people freak that someone is gay and then attacks time because they were shocked or surprised. That’s just the violence. How many men say that they don’t wanna be seen as gay and then bully gay folks in that exact same sentence? They will then put down gay folks to make themselves seem more masculine and heterosexual.

      Just because you’re a victim of societies bullshit doesn’t mean that you get a free pass to hate. More over, if you want that to stop then you have to be the one to help stop it. You don’t get to shrug and go along with it while saying “But I’m just a victimmmmm” if you’re not trying to stop it or help.

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        11 months ago

        I agree, I’m just explaining what they were complaining about.

        Remember, I’m replying to “Wut?” What part of that informs me that you are aware of what they could be thinking?

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          11 months ago

          Oh I know. If that came off directed or angry at you then that was completely unintentional and you have my sincere apologies. Was talking about the idea in general.

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      11 months ago

      Uh, even with the clarification, I’m still confused at what you’re trying to say. You seem very triggered by this, and I’m not sure why.

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        11 months ago

        I’m not the one disagreeing with the joke, so your triggered comment is rather pathetic.

        The joke is aware that the sexist zeitgeist is stupid. That’s the point.