It does make a difference. It’s important context.
You can still denounce it. You can still make holocaust comparisons. But it’s important context that shouldn’t be left out. Because you’re perfectly aware of the implication otherwise.
Yeah, I agree, it’s good to be accurate. However, I doubt that that was the real intention of @ArtikBanana@lemmy.dbzer0.com. That’s the point, hope it’s clear now.
They weren’t saying this for “accuracy” unfortunately… otherwise no one would have had an issue with it. It’s the undertone that stinks.
The Nazis at first didn’t really care whether the Jews were expelled or murdered, they just wanted them eliminated from Germany. Some combination of expelling Jews and encouraging Jewish emigration was the initial plan.
For the life of me I wish I understood why it’s so hard for people to see that genociding one group of people is the same as any other group of people and that Never Again is pretty much right now.
Look mate, the Israeli government and a significant proportion of the population (enough that these types were elected) are extreme racists - which is painfully obvious in the historical track record of how the dehumanizing way they referred to Palestinians, especially more recently in things like an Israeli government official openly saying in a press conference that Palestinians are “human animals” - so in their mind Palestinians are not people like Israelis are.
In such a twisted view, it absolutelly is morally acceptable to treat “human animals” quite differently from how you treat “chosen people”.
It’s the very same “untermenschen” thinking as the Nazis, just with a different target group.
Who cares about accuracy or the truth these days amiright?
The ones who care are those who think ethnic cleansing is somehow less bad than genocide, and they realllllly want to show it for some reason, but not for “accuracy”.
Well how nice that this now makes it different 😊 /s
It does make a difference. It’s important context.
You can still denounce it. You can still make holocaust comparisons. But it’s important context that shouldn’t be left out. Because you’re perfectly aware of the implication otherwise.
Yeah, I agree, it’s good to be accurate. However, I doubt that that was the real intention of @ArtikBanana@lemmy.dbzer0.com. That’s the point, hope it’s clear now.
They weren’t saying this for “accuracy” unfortunately… otherwise no one would have had an issue with it. It’s the undertone that stinks.
And the “undertone that stinks” is anything that doesn’t agree with your position 100%.
Sure, whatever floats your boat 🙄
You wouldn’t respect a holocaust denier, would you? So why would I respect someone like ArtikBanana who is denying another genocide?
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The Nazis at first didn’t really care whether the Jews were expelled or murdered, they just wanted them eliminated from Germany. Some combination of expelling Jews and encouraging Jewish emigration was the initial plan.
For the life of me I wish I understood why it’s so hard for people to see that genociding one group of people is the same as any other group of people and that Never Again is pretty much right now.
Look mate, the Israeli government and a significant proportion of the population (enough that these types were elected) are extreme racists - which is painfully obvious in the historical track record of how the dehumanizing way they referred to Palestinians, especially more recently in things like an Israeli government official openly saying in a press conference that Palestinians are “human animals” - so in their mind Palestinians are not people like Israelis are.
In such a twisted view, it absolutelly is morally acceptable to treat “human animals” quite differently from how you treat “chosen people”.
It’s the very same “untermenschen” thinking as the Nazis, just with a different target group.
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What do YOU think their point is? 🤔
It’s all Nazi shit man, stop trying to pretend there’s a not-so-bad form that’s essential context.
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The ones who care are those who think ethnic cleansing is somehow less bad than genocide, and they realllllly want to show it for some reason, but not for “accuracy”.
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I’m saying I don’t think that you discuss stuff in good faith.
Antisemite! /s
I believe firmly now that those who don’t want anyone to compare anything to the holocaust are the ones that will enable it to be repeated.