As a Finn I say this is fine. Every military resource that is tied down and not raping and destroying Ukraine is net positive.

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    I’ve wanted to fight Russia since they annexed Crimea. I knew it wouldn’t end there, and I was proven right. If they manage to obtain the natural resources of Ukraine then it will just keep escalating. The thing is, though, Russia has lost so many troops that they could easily be swept, right now. Now has never been a better time for either the EU or NATO to force Russia into demilitarization and reparations, as well as putting more economic pressure on the Chinese Dictatorship.

    One thing I don’t want, though, is a direct conflict with China. Those fuckers need to try fixing their own shit, first. Idk if that makes me strong against the weak and weak against the strong, but there is simply too much to lose for all sides in that sort of conflict, unlike the very weakened and destabilized Russia.

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      I’ve wanted to fight Russia since they annexed Crimea.

      I’m sure you’ll be the first to volunteer for the front lines then.

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        Goddamn right I would. Finally a cause worth fighting for, many Americans would view it as a dream come true.

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        Exactly. I hate when people lead off with that. It assumes their personal involvement in the war does anything other than make themselves feel less hopeless.

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          I understand their point from a geopolitical strategy perspective, but you always have to step back and ask yourself if you’d be willing to personally sign up. I would love to see Russia beaten and Putin ousted too, but I’m not willing to physically go do that, so I can’t exactly expect others to.

          Not to mention, I’m old enough to know that it would never go as planned. We’d end up in forever war that kills thousands and thousands of innocent people and puts warlords in charge instead of a clean coup and instant transition to peaceful democracy.

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          Exactly for real, mate, I’d be digging those trenches. Didn’t expect that, did you? Thought you had the ultimate “Gotcha!” but no. I’m probably one of the few people in this comment section even fit to serve. Parrot more talking points, why not?

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              Why would I join up to fight for oil? I just explained that the source of my frustration is the fight that I want to fight is not a priority of my nation.

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                  Sorry, what is your argument here? That if I’m not willing to fight for the profits of companies that I also wouldn’t be willing to fight an actual threat to millions of people? Is that it? You feel like as long as I’m not being deployed to topple a democracy in South America, Africa, or the Middle East that you’ve somehow won here? I clearly overestimated your intelligence, I think I’ll leave the conversation here.