Based on the recent development work that appears to be happening in SteamVR for Linux, which hasn’t gotten that much love since a couple months after Alyx released, my money is on this being a “standalone” VR headset. That said, I’ll be happy with almost anything at this point, I really enjoy pretty much all the hardware Valve has made over the years, and trying out their ideas for new ways to interact with games is always fun.
Doesn’t make much sense to me. It will be very limited in capability and it will be too heavy to wear on your face.
One would think a video game company would make a headset that’s great for gaming, and plugs into your existing gaming rig, rather than buying a whole new gaming rig that you have to wear on your face.
It’s less about it not being open source and more about it being Facebook. One of the worst companies. I refuse to strap my face into spyware.
This is the same company that made a study on how it negatively impacted people’s lives and then purposely moved against it for profit. I simply don’t trust them to make anything with my best interests in mind.
In Meta’s defense they have recently been super open source…but on the flip side they have ALWAYS been horrible on user privacy. Sucks, Zuck is the only billionaire that legit is a coding nerd (well not only but most prominent) and he gets tech moreso than the other leeches imo, but his disregard for user privacy makes pretty much all his efforts with Meta non-viable for me.
I mean I could write an insightful one, but it would be long. I can link you to the myriad of privacy violations Meta has implemented that make it abundantly clear that they absolutely do not give a single fuck and will hoover up as much data as humanly possible as they piss on your face and tell you it’s raining.
gathering data based off your wifi connection, local network, IP address, etc…
disambiguating from other possible matches based off height and other data they can access on the headset
And even if it were anonymous, it’s very reasonable to be opposed to them having the data they can collect from the headset. Using a Facebook headset is basically like using a Facebook phone that also happens to track the movement of your head and both arms and your responses to more immersive stimulus.
The Steam controller is a miracle. Yes, it’s a first Gen product that needs iteration but a controller with track pads, gyro, paddle buttons, and wireless for $50 is still the best value controller ever made imo.
Throw in steam input, which if you haven’t tried it lately is fucking amazing at this point, and I honestly can’t understand why companies aren’t clamoring to integrate it.
I have a Steam controller and a Deck, I never clicked with the SC. Its touchpads were just a bit inconsistent, so I would end up rubbing them uncomfortably hard to make sure they register. The regular controller inputs are tiny and horribly offset from any comfortable position.
The deck absolutely nailed the controls. (Well, once you replace the sticks with Hall sensors. The stock rheostats are toast after a year.)
You can take my steamtroller when you pry it from my cold dead hands. Fucking love that thing. Not just for gaming either, couch computing is all possible via the steamtroller. LOVE IT.
Those are my two gripes too. They seemed to have fixed those issues on the deck though. If they ever do a v2 I’m sure those improvements will carry over.
Based on the recent development work that appears to be happening in SteamVR for Linux, which hasn’t gotten that much love since a couple months after Alyx released, my money is on this being a “standalone” VR headset. That said, I’ll be happy with almost anything at this point, I really enjoy pretty much all the hardware Valve has made over the years, and trying out their ideas for new ways to interact with games is always fun.
I would be so happy for a stand-alone gaming VR headset that isn’t run by Facebook.
Doesn’t make much sense to me. It will be very limited in capability and it will be too heavy to wear on your face.
One would think a video game company would make a headset that’s great for gaming, and plugs into your existing gaming rig, rather than buying a whole new gaming rig that you have to wear on your face.
I actually really want a PSVR2, but it doesn’t do anything except gaming, and I have an old VR180 camera I’d like to take traveling.
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It’s less about it not being open source and more about it being Facebook. One of the worst companies. I refuse to strap my face into spyware.
This is the same company that made a study on how it negatively impacted people’s lives and then purposely moved against it for profit. I simply don’t trust them to make anything with my best interests in mind.
In Meta’s defense they have recently been super open source…but on the flip side they have ALWAYS been horrible on user privacy. Sucks, Zuck is the only billionaire that legit is a coding nerd (well not only but most prominent) and he gets tech moreso than the other leeches imo, but his disregard for user privacy makes pretty much all his efforts with Meta non-viable for me.
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This is a very naive position.
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I mean I could write an insightful one, but it would be long. I can link you to the myriad of privacy violations Meta has implemented that make it abundantly clear that they absolutely do not give a single fuck and will hoover up as much data as humanly possible as they piss on your face and tell you it’s raining.
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They can still connect it to you by
And even if it were anonymous, it’s very reasonable to be opposed to them having the data they can collect from the headset. Using a Facebook headset is basically like using a Facebook phone that also happens to track the movement of your head and both arms and your responses to more immersive stimulus.
SimulaVR but it’s geared towards business
Even the steam controller?
The Steam controller is a miracle. Yes, it’s a first Gen product that needs iteration but a controller with track pads, gyro, paddle buttons, and wireless for $50 is still the best value controller ever made imo.
Throw in steam input, which if you haven’t tried it lately is fucking amazing at this point, and I honestly can’t understand why companies aren’t clamoring to integrate it.
Full controls customizability with 1000’s of options and, something very few controllers seem to have for some reason, digital+analog triggers.
Plus it helped normalize paddles.
Steam controller is amazing and I’d love a gen 2 that matches my steam deck layout.
It was killed by patent trolls because of those back paddles. I’m still kicking myself for not grabbing some when they were clearance for $5.
I’m glad I picked one up when they first came out though.
You could only buy one during the sale, I already had one but grabbed another.
Wait what was killed? The steam controller?
Yeah, they stopped producing them due to the patent trolls. They ultimately won the case though, which is why the deck has back buttons.
I have a Steam controller and a Deck, I never clicked with the SC. Its touchpads were just a bit inconsistent, so I would end up rubbing them uncomfortably hard to make sure they register. The regular controller inputs are tiny and horribly offset from any comfortable position.
The deck absolutely nailed the controls. (Well, once you replace the sticks with Hall sensors. The stock rheostats are toast after a year.)
You can take my steamtroller when you pry it from my cold dead hands. Fucking love that thing. Not just for gaming either, couch computing is all possible via the steamtroller. LOVE IT.
I use the steam controller. Nothing wrong with it in my mind (except maybe the fact that it uses batteries and is slightly too large).
I disagree. Because of swappable batteries my controller is still relevant 7 years and half worn down stick later.
If I were to complain, it’s about unpleasant hollow sound on trackpads and L1/R1 button clicks.
Those are my two gripes too. They seemed to have fixed those issues on the deck though. If they ever do a v2 I’m sure those improvements will carry over.
Deck bumpers are still a long way from the best bumpers - xbox’s.
You mean those delicate little things that snap off if you use it over 1000 presses?
The AA batteries last really, really long and you can get rechargeable ones. You swap them in a few seconds and can continue playing.
The ones that were included with the controller lasted me for several months before I had to swap them.
Yeah, they do last a long time.
I actually bought one for my collection. Takes a lot of tweaking, which I think is what detracts a lot of people, but it’s not bad hardware at all.
Yes, it’s imo the best controller to ever exist… For my needs at least. Also the most comfortable
I own two and use them