• athos77@kbin.social
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    Sir Keir Starmer has said he will seek a “much better” Brexit deal with the EU if Labour wins the next general election.

    I mean, he can seek it, but I don’t see any reason for the EU to accept any changes on their end.

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      The EU would be happy if the UK signed something like Norway and Switzerland have. Of course that’s pretty much what the UK had before Brexit but without the right to vote on the rules, but that’s the UK’s problem.

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      Even worse: I see no reason for the EU to even think about starting a re-negotiation. It makes no sense for them.

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    Fuck you Keir. Fuckin grow a set. Support the workers. Rejoin the EU full-throatedly. Expose the shitstains that organised and made money from Brexit.

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        He has to come out with some strong policies and I would argue that being totally and brutally pro-Europe is the way to go. No wishy-washy nonsense.

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      Rejoin the EU full-throatedly.

      🤣 never heard that before. Are you suggesting he gets down on his knees and… gags for our membership back?

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      Gosh, but Jeremy Corbyn said the EU were the bad guys and we should leave asap to improve things for British workers.

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    Wow, Starmer actually managed to decide on a manifesto pledge? I was starting to think that indecisive git was incapable of actually standing behind a statement. At this rate, we might know where Labour stand on a whole three issues by the time the general election is called.

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      Don’t hold your breath. He didn’t actually say anything about his rewrite other than “better”.

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    Are these the people that promised to have a better deal or leave then proceed to leave because the EU laughed them out of the room?

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        Nah, this is a little less blue team. The guy who won’t support striking workers is not a red.

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          Pragmatism ≠ sellout.

          Papa Smurf never compromised on his ideals, and never got anywhere near the position to put them into practice. Blair delivered a lot for the working class from the back seat of a limo.

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              One of the things companies like Cambridge Analytica do, is target voters unlikely to change who they vote for, and convince them to not bother voting at all by convincing them that ‘both sides’ are just as bad as each other.

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                Agreed. But that in no way changes the facts. I unlike many did not claim there is no difference. Only that the move to the right allowed the opposition to move even further to the right.

                As I say. I am old enough to remember thatcher run for PM. (Was young). She had to present privatisation of national resources with care. Starting with one that allowed more competition with privatisation. IE the most logical. And still it was a fight for the party to make it seem practical.

                But in corbyns time ( he was not perfect not claiming he was. Pointing out the change in attitude)

                The idea of nationalising anything takes that same fight, and care. Society has spent 40+ years with no party arguing the value of left of center ideas. Just less right of center. So we are now faced with an overton window where voters consider anything left to be extream.

                Of course it is also fair to say the post WW2 Labour Party moved the window drematically left. But it is hard to argue that society did not inproove for many from that move. (Of course I’m not that old so can only compare the history data generated post that move)

                It is very hard to argue that most of society. And definatly younger parts of society. Have an improved life now it has returned towards the right. Only the top 10% or so gained from this move long term.

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    Why is Labour not even presenting the option to rejoin? As a foreigner, it just sounds like they’re taking a Conservative-lite position, “We’re for the same things they’re for, but we’ll do them better!” Or is rejoining the EU just political suicide at the moment, what’s done is done?

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    It remains unclear, however, if Brussels would be open to making major changes to the agreement, which was agreed by former Conservative Prime Minister Boris Johnson in 2021.

    Sir Keir has repeatedly said he would not seek to rejoin the EU if his party comes to power, promising to “make Brexit work”.

    His party has consistently held double-digit leads in the political opinion polls, with a general election expected to take place some time in 2024.

    That’s not a question of going back in, but I refuse to accept that we can’t make it work," he said, adding that he was thinking about “future generations”.

    He also travelled to the Hague, the Netherlands, last week to meet with the EU’s law enforcement agency Europol, seeking a deal to try and stop smuggling gangs bringing people across the channel in small boats.

    That led to accusations by Prime Minister Rishi Sunak and Home Secretary Suella Braverman that his party was planning to let the UK become a “dumping ground” for 100,000 migrants from the continent each year, claims he said were “complete garbage”.


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