• hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net
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    10 months ago

    Hamas isn’t a government, it’s a terrorist group. It’s also horrible to Palestinians and it undermines the actual government of Palestine, the Palestinian Authority. There was just an article posted to Lemmy that talked about how Likud (the far right party governing Israel that’s undermined peace talks multiple times) helped fund Hamas.

    Oppressed people can’t “put their guns down” because they’re being exterminated. Only the oppressor can stop. If you’re really against both Hamas and Israel, then you believe that Israel needs to stop committing genocide. If you’re pretending “both sides” are equal, then you’re playing the same game Trump said when he equated people waving Nazi and confederate flags witj people trying not to be killed by people waving Nazi and confederate flags by saying “both sides are to blame.”

    Pretending oppressed people have as much power as their oppressors is the game oppressors use to perpetuate their oppression.

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      10 months ago

      Hamas isn’t a government, it’s a terrorist group. It’s also horrible to Palestinians and it undermines the actual government of Palestine, the Palestinian Authority.

      The people of Gaza voted Hamas in, so Hamas is the actual government of Gaza. And also a terrorist organization.

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        10 months ago

        You mean based on the election that happened 17 years ago? Considering the average age in Gaza is 18 it’s pretty likely the people who voted for Hamas aren’t even alive anymore.

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            10 months ago

            So you’re holding people accountable for something most of them never even had a say in?

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              10 months ago

              Normally the people here are always saying it’s the obligation of the people to go against their evil government. Why not in this case? How many protests took place in Palestine against Hamas? Or against the violence they used against their own people?

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                10 months ago

                You don’t think the near-permanent humanitarian crisis, half the population being children and Israel still effectively controlling Gaza gives Palestine the exception from the normality? Nothing is normal about Palestine so why should we treat them normally?

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                10 months ago

                Normally the people here are always saying it’s the obligation of the people to go against their evil government.

                There’s an evil government right next to the border ready to make their lives hell if they do that, and it’s people don’t give a fuck.

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                  10 months ago

                  You think Israel would go against people in Gaza or the Westbank when they would try to change their laws to the better? Or go against the terrorists in their own country? There is no indication for that to be true.

                  People in Gaza and Westbank regularly protest, but exclusively against Israel. That does seem a lot like they are happy with the status of their own government. Which includes regular attacks on civilian targets in Israel, the oppression and sometimes murder of gay people, oppression of women and minorities, corruption and seizing of global aids and a call for a pure muslim country.

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      10 months ago

      Hamas is the government of Gaza. Claiming otherwise is spreading misinformation.

      The government of Gaza is currently holding hostages. The government of Israel has said it’s not stopping until those hostages are released.

      To claim the Palestinians have no power is spreading misinformation. They absolutely have the power to stop this war.

      None of this is to say what Israel’s government is doing is acceptable.