• stepanzak@iusearchlinux.fyi
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    1 year ago

    I’m not saying that Jáchymov and concentration camp are the same. I’m saying that according to the statement of many people who were there, the conditions were similar. I’m also saying that in both cases, you can argue that not everyone there was innocent. The problem is that there were innocent people sent there on purpose. Horáková was anti-communist. She was reactionary in the meaning that she wanted another political regime. Neither of these makes her guilty of anything. In any political regime, there are people against it. Even now, and we don’t hang them up. The fact that there is no proof she was innocent is a complete bullshit argument. If you have a presumption of innocence, it means nothing. If you have a presumption of guilt, I can say there’s no evidence of your grandma not secretly leading resistance. Any modern society requires evidence to prove somebody being guilty, not innocent. Your family is one family. In the Memory of the nation’s archive, you can liten to thousands of people’s stories. By saying it’s an anti-communist organization, are you saying it’s fake? Do you think that the people are lying or what? There are also interviews with communists in their archives. Czechoslovak Republic had a great economy. That’s certainly true, but at least for me, it doesn’t justify totalitarian regime with killing political enemies, locking the country behind the iron curtain and doing all the other things I have already written that you either ignore or marginalize. If all the things that were happening here are still worth for good economy for you, than this debate can be ended because we we can’t agree on that. If you do not believe it, even with all the proves and all the people saying it, if you think all the thousands of interviews by the Memory of the nation are fake, somebody has written all the tons of documents in the archive in Prague after revolution and made it all up for no actual reason, if you believe that somebody just made up all the information trails and museums and all of this was done and still is being done by the goverment even when communists are not a political threat for them and our government that is not very capable in most cases is able to keep this secret for years, and you believe it just because nobody from your family wasn’t falsely sentenced or executed or tortured or shot when trying to leave the country or anything else, this debate can also be ended because i’m not able to convince you about the opposite.

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      1 year ago

      made it all up for no actual reason…

      For me, it’s not that information is ‘made up’. It’s a question of emphasis and one-sidedness. And there is a reason for the dominant narrative. You said:

      even when communists are not a political threat…

      But this is false. Communists are and always will be a threat to liberals and fascists. They can be slandered, tortured, imprisoned, misrepresented, and killed. But they will never disappear. They will never stop fighting. And they will never be finally silenced. That is why capitalists spend so much money, time, and effort distorting history. This is the reason you’re looking for.