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    basically everyone eats meat. If it’s making meat it’s broadly serving the people.

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        Yeah, and neither deforestation nor meat make a dent in that. If you want to end global warming, end the use of fossil fuels.

        The statistics they parrot about nothing emissions are largely bullshit and even if everyone stopped eating meat tomorrow we’d still have all the same problems we do now.

        You can’t offset global warming with forests, what humans are doing is an order of magnitude larger than what nature is equipped to handle.

        Nor is this even relevant at all, because even fossil fuels serve the average person. There’s a reason we keep using them.

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          The statistics they parrot

          That tells me everything i need to know, you cant be convinced with science.

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            People who don’t understand that all methane emitted by cows must come from carbon gathered by plants and as a result contributes near net zero to the long-term global warming trend are the people who don’t understand science.

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              The earth doesnt produce carbon at all, so why do you think things have getting warmer? It matters what form that carbon takes. Carbon in the form of a plant is a solid, and even works to pull carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. Carbon in the form of methane has a much stronger greenhouse gas effect than regular carbon dioxide. Which is where those bullshit statistics you hate come from, it’s carbon that was solid and is now a greenhouse gas. Same shit as fossil fuels, its not new carbon being made, its just solid carbon being turned into gas.

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                The earth doesnt produce carbon at all, so why do you think things have getting warmer? It matters what form that carbon takes. Carbon in the form of a plant is a solid, and even works to pull carbon dioxide from the atmosphere. Carbon in the form of methane has

                Jesus Christ you’re ignorant.

                The carbon in plants comes out of the atmosphere.

                Cows eat those plants and processes in their stomach turn it into methane.

                Methane in the atmosphere turns back to carbon within 20 years.

                Plants then reabsorb that carbon when they grow to feed the cows.

                It’s literally a constrained cycle. You can’t increase the amount of carbon in the atmosphere through cows and plants. You have to actually find carbon that is in a stable solid form and then put it into the atmosphere when it otherwise wouldn’t be.

                In other words, you have to mine coal or pump oil.

                Plants and cows have absolutely nothing to do with it.

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                    You don’t think the earth produces carbon at all, so please, tell me. Did humans 2 billion years ago create all the carbon on earth?

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                The earth doesnt produce carbon at all What?

                There are hundreds of fully natural processes that emit carbon that have nothing to do with Humans. Volcanos, Plant Respiration, other mammal respiration, forest fires, lime stone erosion, natural decomposition of organic matter, meteorites burning up in the atomosphere, lightning strikes, etc etc. Where do you think the carbon in the earth came from? God? Well before humans existed there were ice ages and periods of higher carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, as well as higher oxygen. That statement by itself shows you don’t’ really have a good grasp of what climate change is, nor what is causing it.

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      Deforestation is not serving the people

      High GHG emissions is not serving the people

      High cruelty to non-human animals is not serving the people

      Etc.

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        Yes. It is. This meat isn’t going into dumpsters. It’s largely sold and people love the cheap prices and do not care about any of that in mass