• 🐑🇸 🇭 🇪 🇪 🇵 🇱 🇪🐑@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    54
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    edit-2
    11 months ago

    And this isn’t even some kind of loophole or technicality. Heat metal is meant to be used on metal items enemies carry to disarm them. So this is a perfectly valid use.

    The fact that our dear nobleman went for adamantine skin instead of something more reasonable like an adamantine plate, is his fault.

    The DM didn’t do their homework basically

    • 520@kbin.social
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      50
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      edit-2
      11 months ago

      That’s because this isn’t from DnD. It’s from Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance.

      This is EXACTLY how the last boss plays out before the actual final fight

    • macniel@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      19
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      11 months ago

      how would heat metal interact with skin literally made out of adamantine? pretty sure it wouldn’t do much.

      Furthermore, worn items can’t be broken in DND. Ever. As in that sword wouldn’t have shattered.

      Good thing that 5e isn’t the only dnd version, or heck even the only ttrpg.

      • 9bananas@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        edit-2
        11 months ago

        Furthermore, worn items can’t be broken in DND. Ever. As in that sword wouldn’t have shattered.

        …that’s not true tho?

        a mundane sword, indeed all mundane objects, can be broken!

        there’s a section with a table (DMG chapter 8; objects) with AC, HP, and so forth for objects of various sizes and materials.

        it’s also on the starterpack DM screens!

        the sword in question would have 3d6 HP and AC 19.

        the relevant rules section, directly above said tables, isn’t very helpful in general, but it clearly says that all objects can, in principle, be destroyed:

        […] given enough time and the right tools, characters can destroy any destructible object. Use common sense when determining a character’s success at damaging an object.

        DnD isn’t really made for complex equipment maintenance, so it’s perfectly reasonable to completely ignore these rules in normal play…which is why it’s one of those things everyone always forgets about…

        what, afaik, actually can’t be broken are magic items. at least I’m pretty sure according to the rules they’re not meant to ever be broken…

        edit: it’s artifacts that usually can’t be destroyed; magic items are just described as “at least as durable as a regular item of it’s kind”, but resistant to ALL damage…

        as for the heat metal with adamantine skin interaction…dunno, I’d say it depends on whether the adamantine is right on the surface of the skin or not: magic in DnD is pretty well established to not work inside of a creatures body, with very few, explicitly stated, exceptions (because it would allow all sorts of dumb loopholes, like control water, a cantrip, being able to freeze blood inside a living being…that would obviously be broken, so magic stops at the skin, usually)

    • VelvetStorm@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      11 months ago

      Even if it was plate it takes 10 min to don and 5 doff heavy armor. So that’s what 50 rounds of combat taking 2d8 every round. That’s on average like what 450 dmg?

        • Xariphon@kbin.social
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          12
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          11 months ago

          Seriously. I gave it an honest shot, but it feels like nothing but an anemic shadow of 3.5.

          Like. I played 3.5 when it was new and had almost nothing in it, and there was still more in it than there is in 5e.

            • Xariphon@kbin.social
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              11 months ago

              I’ve never tried PF2e. 1e changed a lot from 3.5 in ways I strongly disliked, so I never really played much of it or tried 2e.

              • SlikPikker@lemmy.ca
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                2
                ·
                11 months ago

                2e and the three action economy, meaningful class balance, meaningful movement, and solid rules make it my go to.

                I haven’t played 5e but I haven’t found anything in it so far pf2e doesn’t seem to.do better.

                Certainly I’m liking DMing for it.

          • GTG3000@programming.dev
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            11 months ago

            It’s a really good way to get people into tabletop, since making characters is very straightforward and there’s not much they need to remember.

            …three campaigns later, I yearn for PF2e though.

    • Shayeta@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      11 months ago

      Pretty sure Adamantine is its own thing? Not really classified as a metal by the game?