• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    It’s the worst political theater. It makes it look like something is being done when it isn’t. Gun sales go up and liberals feel good. More kids die.

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        11 months ago

        The solution is for law enforcement to properly enforce the existing laws that could have stopped countless shootings already.

        My personal solution is not to worry about gun violence because it’s extremely rare and highly unlikely to affect me. America is quite safe to live in for the majority of us.

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          11 months ago

          My personal solution is not to worry about gun violence because it’s extremely rare and highly unlikely to affect me.

          Oh, well as long as it is unlikely to affect you…

          I mean illegal abortion is unlikely to affect me, so why should I give a shit, am I right?

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            11 months ago

            That’s really a bad comparison, because you’re arguing for the point of taking away rights from Americans, by making reference to a right that was taken away (since it was never properly added to the Constitution). I support all rights for all Americans - we should all have the rights to bear arms and to privacy + bodily autonomy.

            So instead of arguing to take away more rights, you should be arguing to add more rights. Lobby for the rights to privacy and bodily autonomy instead.

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                Of course I do, and you should too. You should care about all the rights of Americans, just as I do and AS I ALREADY MENTIONED.

                I have already addressed everything you mentioned previously, so now you’re just pissing in the wind.

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                  11 months ago

                  My personal solution is not to worry about gun violence because it’s extremely rare and highly unlikely to affect me

                  Your words.

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                    11 months ago

                    I like how you ignore the first half of their comment then reply to the personal part, aka the non political half, and examine it as if it the only thing they said about gun violence at all.

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        11 months ago

        I’m afraid at this point there’s no legislation that will survive the Supreme Court. The next realistic move is to mirror the federalist society. Get enough judges appointed with the idea that the second does not protect personal gun ownership and reach a critical state.

        If I could waive a magic wand without breaking the character of the US, we’d ban external magazines, have universal background checks, and stop federal funds from going to states that don’t send information to the National Instant Check System. There’s so much low hanging fruit. But even when SCOTUS wasn’t busy boofing beers the Brady Campaign gave us shit laws designed to harass people, not reduce violence.

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            11 months ago

            Frustrating the reload slows down active shooters. Solidifying the NICS means criminals can’t just go to the next state over. And Universal background checks takes away the secondhand market from criminals as well.

            A program to groom judges on this just like the conservatives did with Roe V Wade will do the most in the long term because we’ll be able to have laws based on the actual amendment, not just a few words of it.

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              11 months ago

              Yes…because no active shooters have ever made plans…and no active shooters have ever not been flagged correctly when they were prohibited already…and no one buys drugs on the black market cause that’s illegal…and no one makes straw purchases which are already illegal.

              RvW needs to be signed into a law, not used as a bargaining chip for votes for Democrats. They need to use their political capital to make it a federal law.

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                This isn’t a good faith argument. The logical extent is that we can’t stop every criminal so we should have no laws at all.

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                  11 months ago

                  We already have laws for these things you listed… literally murder is illegal…so is buying or owning a firearm and being a prohibited person…you gonna make it double illegal? I’m not the one arguing in bad faith. You are

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                    Right, first you argue we can’t catch them all so we shouldn’t have laws, and now your arguing that we just have to sit back and let them kill people.

                    Go home.