• Machinist3359@kbin.social
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    11 months ago

    Yeah, bombing people is notoriously good at deterring further political violence (/s obviously).

    What do you call collective punishment again? A War Cream? No that’s not right …

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      11 months ago

      It’s called war between nations, asymmetrical war but war nonetheless. They’re not starving out Gaza and demanding civilians bring them hamas, they’re going in there themselves.

      If Gaza surrenders then terms like war crimes for collective punishment start making sense. Right now they have their own government which happens to be comprised of belligerent terrorists. Israel isn’t leaving until that’s no longer the case.

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        11 months ago

        In my book bombing civilians is still called a war crime regardless of the supposed enemy you’re pretending to target. The excuse of collateral damage doesn’t even make sense, they shot artillery at the exact place they knew there would be civilians because they sent them there.

        Also: Israel barely considers Palestine a country in the first place. How is this a “war between nations” and “actually not a warcrime at all” when one of the sides doing the warcrimes doesn’t even think their opponent has any sovereignty?

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          11 months ago

          You’re accusing them of intentionally targeting civilians, and I’ve yet to see any evidence of that. It’s more accurate to say that Israel doesn’t care much about collateral damage.

          The excuse of collateral damage doesn’t even make sense, they shot artillery at the exact place they knew there would be civilians because they sent them there.

          If Hamas was there too, it makes sense and it is in fact collateral damage. Israel will attack potential targets even if there’s the slightest connection to Hamas. Evidently they built ai for this purpose, which gives them targets faster than they can bomb them.

          Israel barely considers Palestine a country in the first place. How is this a “war between nations”

          A nation is different than a country or a state. It just means a group of people with shared purpose. Israel disputes that Palestine is a state, not that it is a nation.

          And they did have some limited sovereignty, they used it to attack Israeli civilians.

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        11 months ago

        Right now they have their own government which happens to be comprised of belligerent terrorists.

        Hard to be belligerent when you’re under a blockade/military occupation (which is BTW an act of war).

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          11 months ago

          Yeah, it almost sounds like they’ve lost and they refused to concede, doesn’t it? That’s why they’ve resorted to Guerrilla warfare hiding among civilians.

          They’ve been at war since 1948 and Palestine has yet to surrender, preferring instead intafada. We are seeing the consequences of that today.