Of course, not Tomi Lahren though…

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    What is the point she is trying to make? That women have agency? This is what passes for controversy on the right th se days?

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    Add to this list:

    • Andrew Tate
    • Jordan Peterson
    • TP USA

    We see you guys and you make us drier than the Sahara. Please grow a personality that isn’t hating women

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      Fun Fact: Rot Brain Peterson has, on the record, unironically advocated that “society needs to work to make sure men are married” so they don’t become violent.

      And he says feminists are the ones besmirching masculinity.

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        Incredible, he’s infantilized men into big dangerous toddlers that throw a violent fit when they don’t get what they want.

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          To be fair it’s a really bad sign for the stability a country if there is a large population of unemployed men.

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          The best part is his incel base ate it up and assumed he meant government-issued sex slaves, so he clarified that he just meant society, aka the literal patriarchy, needs to shame the very idea of not being in a monogamous hetero couple so hard it is socially unacceptable to do anything else (you know, again)

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        Military aged men (usually aged late teens to mid 40s) have historically been the drivers of society. If a significant chunk of this demographic feels lost, hopeless, and close to the brink, then that’s when all hell breaks loose. From insane crime rates to extremism to war to riots to revolutions to you name it. I don’t think Peterson is suggesting that society should do mandatory marriages or anything like that. He’s just pointing out that the data shows that marriage improves the happiness and quality of life for men (and women), and it will be a net benefit to society to try and increase the marriage rates as opposed to doing nothing and keeping the current trends going.

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          Don’t you think that group also contains homosexuals, transgender, etc, who have a much harder standing in “our society”? Or what about people who just don’t work monogamous?

          Shaming them into (hetero) marriages doesn’t make them happier.

          With an intolerant society, there will always be unhappy people.

          So IMO the only way to evolve would be to become fully tolerant and just let people be who they want to be without having to fear, that someone else condemns them for who they are.

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          I don’t get why you’re getting so much hate. The statement boils down to people need to be invested in their society, or society isn’t stable.

          People with families want stability, want to make society better, care about the community more. That’s not to say people without families don’t, but the incentives are there for people with families.

          So when talking about entire populations, pointing out the statistically populations with large numbers of uncommitted men are less stable, shouldn’t be controversial

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        Turning point USA is Charlie Kirk’s (I think) organization. It’s your typical right-wing “you’re anti-capitalist, yet you live in a capitalist society. Curious.”

        Toilet paper USA is that format, but with Charlie Kirk’s head subtly photoshopped (maybe).

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      Whenever I see a person who talks down to others for not appealing more to them, I always wonder what causes their sense of entitlement. Always an interesting story.

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    I searched for JRE the other day expecting a link to Java Runtime Environment.

    Now Google thinks I like Joe fucking Rogan.

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      He’s an impressionable idiot, and he has listened to a ton of far right propaganda. Combine those things with a huge platform and you end up with large scale misinformation.

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    What’s dumber than these surveys which are always filled with loaded questions and questionable sampling methods, is the fact people take them as fact without even looking into them. I spent so much time trying to track down where the original survey is, and it doesn’t exist. It’s not on the Change Research website, it’s not linked by any article that mentions it, and it’s not reported by any credible outlet. It’s reported on by 5 or so tabloids like The NY Post, The Daily Mail, and Teen Vogue and nothing more.

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            Thanks kind internet stranger! Also, am I just obtuse, or did the last questions not have response data?

            As an unrelated aside, who the hell has that kind of time for a survey?!

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        Okay, mild progress… But where’s the data for it?

        Also, this is from the methodology pdf:

        We used the following sources to recruit respondents: ● targeted advertisements using the Meta advertising >platform ● SMS text messages

        Regardless of which of these sources a respondent came from, they were directed to a survey hosted on SurveyMonkey’s website.

        Ads placed on social media targeted likely voters nationwide. Those who indicated that they were not registered to vote were terminated. Those who indicated they were over the age of 34 were terminated. As the survey fielded, Change Research used dynamic online sampling: adjusting ad budgets, lowering budgets for ads targeting groups that were overrepresented, raising budgets for ads targeting groups that were underrepresented. The survey was conducted in English.

        So this is a self reported online poll with 84 oddly phrased questions that was advertised primarily on Instagram and Facebook and conducted on a redirected website. The methodology seems dodgy, and even the people conducting it agree:

        We adopt The Pew Research Center’s convention for the term “modeled margin of error”(1) (mMOE) to indicate that our surveys are not simple random samples in the pure sense, similar to any survey that has either non-response bias or for which the general population was not invited at random. A common, if imperfect, convention for reporting survey results is to use a single, survey-level mMOE based on a normal approximation. This is a poor approximation for proportion estimates close to 0 or 1. However, it is a useful communication tool in many settings and is reasonable in places where the proportion of interest is close to 50%. We report this normal approximation for our surveys assuming a proportion estimate of 50%

        Thanks for the link regardless

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    As I’ve said before, the doors on the pussy wagon have been bolted shut after that abortion ruling.

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      Doors to my cockmobile closed long before that, I’ve no interest in having kids, most of my peers feel the same. I’m actively looking to have the snip and I’m not even thirty yet, no divorce rape for me thanks. I’ve lived through two already.

      Edit: I’m apparently “too young” to be making “decisions that could affect my future” at nearly thirty, what a fucking joke.

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    Is this the same Tammy Loreen who was too dumb to foresee that her party of fascists would be against her views that women should have rights?

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      No that was the one from TPUSA. Tami is the one who got the nose job and was fired from Breitbart (I think? One of the right wing rags) for saying “hey maybe a women’s right to choose what to do with her body isn’t completely evil” and then got a job at Fox news and someone threw a cup of water on her whilst she was eating lunch

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      lol I just looked it up so I could block it too. Fortunately, it looks like the two people that posted there gave up and abandoned it a month ago.

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    On related news, their standards are pretty low, as a whooping 45% of Millenial and GenZ woman women would drop as low as having a partner that listens to “The Joe Rogan Experience”.

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      Hey he has some good old episodes, I listen to them when I need white noise

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          You like using the word “nazi” too much there bud. I think you mean’t to say “There are plenty of other podcasts with great episodes that don’t platform people I was programmed to hate and want cancelled.”

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            Alex Jones is a white supremacist. He has had Jones on the podcasts, ergo platforming him. Therefore “Rogan platforms Nazis” is, pretty much, a true statement.

            And no, I’m not programmed to dislike Jones, I’ve come to that opinion after listening to his unedited show for years. He uses the terminology, rhetoric, and arguments found in white supremacy talking points. Jones isn’t going to out right say “I’m a Nazi” or etc. (unlike Kayne – who he suspiciously didn’t boot immediately alongside Nick Fuentes when they explicitly say that), because it’s the third rail you can’t touch and be a propagandist for the masses. Which is his aim.

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              Alex Jones is a white supremacist. He has had Jones on the podcasts, ergo platforming him. Therefore “Rogan platforms Nazis” is, pretty much, a true statement.

              Alex Jones is a nutjob, not a nazi. So claiming “Rogan platforms nazis” is completely false.

              And no, I’m not programmed to dislike Jones

              Chill out dude. If you listened to JRE hours upon end and think Joe Rogan is an nazi soapbox, there is something wrong with you man. For one, why do you tune into to JRE if hes sooooo evil and gives meanies a platform? And second I am calling BS that you listen to JRE for hours. If you do not like Joe Rogan, you will not consume his content, especially hours of it.

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                I didn’t say I listened to Joe Rogan for hours — I said I listened to Alex Jones for a considerable amount of time. I only gave a counter example to show that Joe Rogan does, in fact, platform Nazis. To do that I only need to show one example where he does. And it’s one white supremacist I’m familiar with.

                To my knowledge, being a nut-job doesn’t preclude somone from being a white supremacist. If they’re propagandizing white supremacists talking points to a large audience, even if “mad”, they’re still a fucking white supremacist. Honestly, the cogent ones are more scary. But, If they’re talking about the ‘fall of the western civilization’, the threat of the ‘globalists’, or aping rhetoric from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion: they’re a white supremacist. Which Alex spins into current events around a narrative to have people believe the world is ending in a month or so just in time before the lovely ad pivot. Again, it’s not something he’ll directly say, but its something that gets picked up over time after listening to him for way too long. A through line, of sorts, as he dons and shifts positions, or the conspiracy ‘flavor of the week,’ as he picks up whatever narrative he finds helpful so he can continue to doomsay.

                I will say Jones has some sort of illness, but I don’t know the exactly where it ends and his act that enriched him begins. For example, 2008-2012 era Jones hits differently than 2016 onward.

                I’d be more than happy to pick out audio clips where he does precisely this, if you want. However that will take me a bit cause I don’t have a perfect recollection of all the vile shit he’s said. There’s always the Knowledge Fight podcast, where they debunk the idiot, but that’s your call. They, weirdly enough, were expert witnesses at Jone’s Sandyhook civil trial.

                Edit: A good day Knowledge Fight covers of Alex’s show is episode 796: February 4, 2004. Start at 11:07 to avoid the podcaster bloat. It’s a case where everyone who is a guest just so happens to be Nazis. Of course, there are many of other days like this, of course.

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                  Man, you need to get a different hobby. Spending time thinking some nutjob snake oil salesman is nazi because he dabbles in conspiracies. The fact you just admit you watched a lot of Alex Jones tells me your as crazy as any Alex Jones fanboy.

                  Honestly, there are like no nazi left out there except for a dozen trailer park bikers and a few weird teenagers. WWII came to an end almost 80 years ago. The “Nazi empire” got destroyed by the west and the Soviet Union. I know you lefties like to think there is a nazi around every corner and rock, but I cannot take you seriously with your over the top opinion.

                  It is safe to assume that you think 30% - 60% of the population are nazis because they like watching and following so and so online that had connections or a talk with so and so that has been labelled a nazi by your prophets.

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    I wouldn’t date any of those boring women. :)

    Those surveys are useless as well, people do them for entertainment. If a good looking guy comes along and he listens to Rogan, she won’t care at all.

    This entire Virtue Signaling in social media or in surveys is just for show. It’s who people want to be, not who they are.

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      I wouldn’t date any of those boring women. :)

      I don’t think they’ll mind.

      Virtue Signaling

      lmao… Yeah, okay. They definitely won’t mind.

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      I wouldn’t date any of those boring women

      If a good looking guy comes along and he listens to Rogan, she won’t care at all.

      If you think that, I get the feeling if a good looking woman came along you wouldn’t care at all if she was “boring”. But go ahead and keep virtue signaling on how picky you are while also assuming women aren’t.

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      I dont care how good looking you are if you’re a bigot. And none of my friends do either. Were literally telling you that we won’t date you if you’re bigoted and you prove over and over again that you aren’t even listening.

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      These are the same women lamenting that they can’t find a “good man” who will pay for their dinners and open the door for them.

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      Women who don’t like Joe Rogan for no good reason is a red flag. Simple as that.

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    Headline should just read: “9/10 wamen say Joe Rogan and Trump bad”

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    I wonder how “desirable” these woman are that took part in this survey and will refuse to date non-woke men.

    I know so many people are going to dogpile on me for making this comment and downvote this comment to hell. However I think a big part of it is the person’s character and not entirely a generation.