I understand that the west has ridiculously high levels of propaganda against the DPRK but how do Communists argue with the fact that there is clearly some kind of family line to the leader role?

hotwarioinyourarea [he/him]@hexbear.net · 1 year ago

I understand that the west has ridiculously high levels of propaganda against the DPRK but how do Communists argue with the fact that there is clearly some kind of family line to the leader role?

Trudge [Comrade]@lemmygrad.ml · 1 year ago

My belief is that in a fair socialist society, there would be a constant flow of outsiders because that is the natural order of things if everyone’s given fair education and opportunity.

That has been seen in most socialist countries historical and current. If this state of affairs is not true, that implies the existence of formal or informal institutional mechanisms in which connected people are favored. I dislike such mechanisms inherently after decades of living in it.

I don’t see how I would suddenly like such mechanism just because it occurs inside a socialist framework comrade. Equal distribution of material goods and services is not the only concern for me. I also favor socialism due to the fact that impoverished peasants can rise to high stations unlike capitalism. Favoritism towards Pyongyang makes such things less likely.

CriticalResist8@lemmygrad.ml · 1 year ago

There are 687 seats in the Supreme People’s Assembly, of which Kim Jong Un is not a member anymore (having elected not to be on the ballot at the last elections). There are also countless generals in the army, several ministers, several members of the WPK’s central committee, and of course local officials as well as party leaders other than the WPK (there’s 2 other parties in the SPA forming a front for the reunification of Korea with the three of them).

Of all these officials, the Kim family had 4 members of their family fulfilling governmental positions. The DPRK even had one of the Kims executed for being a CIA insurrectionary.

I get your distrust of such mechanisms where family ties might get you somewhere, but the DPRK is not a capitalist country. I don’t think this is a clear-cut area that we can readily criticize the DPRK on. It only strengthens the “DPRK is a monarchy” argument in the average liberal and right-winger; Kim Jong-Un holds 3 positions (chairman of WPK, supreme commander of the armies and president of the state affairs commission). The title of president, which conferred powers as the head of state, was abolished after Kim Il Sung’s death (making him the “Eternal Leader” because he was the only one who ever held that title).