• rekabis@lemmy.ca
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    11 months ago

    This is the explanation that CosmicCleric needs in order to understand binary search.

    Because as it is, (s)he’s failing abysmally at demonstrating any understanding whatsoever of that subject.

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      11 months ago

      Nah, they’re just gonna say you can use AI or something, as a retroactive explanation for what they obviously weren’t talking about in their original comment. They’re a troll; they’re not going to budge.

      Edit: Case in point. They’re now at the level of mental gymnastics that they’re saying part of their original response implied that they were talking about the capabilities of AI at some point in the future.

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          11 months ago

          And to recap, what you said is:

          If an event lasts only a moment and leaves no visual cue, you will see that event happen using a binary search.

          Which is, of course, false.

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            11 months ago

            And to recap, what you said is:

            If an event lasts only a moment and leaves no visual cue, you will see that event happen using a binary search.

            Which is, of course, false.

            It’s not false if the event changes the environment around it, which was my point.

            You incorrectly assuming a completely clean and static event that does not affect anything around it afterwards, and in the real world that’s just not usually the case.

            And for the record, I never said it works 100% of the time.

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              11 months ago

              It’s not false if the event changes the environment around it, which was my point.

              No it wasn’t. That’s neither implied nor explicitly stated in your initial reply.

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                11 months ago

                It’s not false if the event changes the environment around it, which was my point.

                No it wasn’t. That’s neither implied nor explicitly stated in your initial reply.

                I honestly thought it was implied, because to me of course it makes perfect sense, it’s common sense.

                When an event happens, the environment around it would change. Human beings never do something statically without affecting their environment, which is why I was responding in the first place, to counter the “virtually undetectable” point.

                I was disagreeing with the point being expressed that it would be undetectable, and hence, unusable.

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                  I would guess that you assume environment is changed most of the time, because a footage where it changes gets more attention than a footage where it doesn’t. There are a lot of cams with virtually nothing changing in the view between people passing.

                  Also, if everyone changes the environment binary search would give lots of false detections in case you don’t know what exactly to expect (like when you mentioned toppling a trash can)

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                    Also, if everyone changes the environment binary search would give lots of false detections in case you don’t know what exactly to expect (like when you mentioned toppling a trash can)

                    But by ‘change the environment’ I mean the event itself does the change, and not other humans doing non-event things. Though people can congregate around a location of where an event happens and loiter there, and that would be a marker as well for a binary search.

                    And honestly, the thing everybody is arguing with me against, is that they are advocating that there would be a prestine before and after static image around an event, making binary searches not possible. Truly? That would be excessively rare in my eyes, reality usually doesn’t work like that.

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                  No, that wasn’t the intention of your original reply. Makes no sense in the context of your original response. Just goalposts you’ve moved after the fact.

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                    No, that wasn’t the intention of your original reply. Makes no sense in the context of your original response. Just goalposts you’ve moved after the fact.

                    You’re being intellectually dishonest. I explaned truthfully what my implied thoughts were, in detail, which justified the point I was making.

                    You can’t change them just because you want to win an Internet point.