Back in the day Ashley Cole was given dogs’ abuse for going from Arsenal to Chelsea, but there just seems to be no proper animosity now from fans towards former players. Cech, David Luiz, Giroud and now Havertz have all gone to the other side, but no one really seems to care and all those listed seem to still be well respected by their former club (apart from Havertz, who no one seems to care about either way).

Why has this rivalry died off? Arsenal and Tottenham players would never transfer to each other, nor Man United players to city or liverpool etc.

  • WestwardCycles10456@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    Nah, maybe global Arsenal fans don’t hate Chelski fans.

    But anyone who grew up in the UK with them buying leagues after coming from the championship/bankruptcy/mid table fucking despises them. They literally paved the way for City to ruin football and the prem.

    A lot of Chelsea fans are racist. They had a literal recruitment office for a far right nazi group outside of their stadium. But even the non racist ones just aren’t nice people.

    They stole a lot of Arsenal’s players by being fraudulent and paying money that they didn’t have - any Arsenal fan that doesnt think they should be dissolved as a club isn’t a real gooner.

    (yes I am bitter about the UCL’s)

  • samdd1990@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    It feels like the only premiership London rivalries are (insert club here) vs spurs.

    Oh and Chelsea, everyone hates them but that’s fair enough.

  • Western_Style3780@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    “Arsenal and Tottenham player would never transfer to each other, nor United players to city or Liverpool ect.”

    *Sol Campbell, Emmanuel Adebayor, Pat Jennings, William Galas, Denis Law, Carlos Tevez, Owen Hargreaves, Peter Schmeichel, Brian Kidd, Raheem Sterling, James Milner, Paul Ince, Peter Beardsley, and Michael Owen have entered the chat.

  • WarDull8208@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    The diff is that Cashley was one of the best Left Back when he moved to Chelsea and in other hand Cech, Luiz, Willian all were in their decline. Havertz was hated by Chelsea’s fans so it makes sense that they had zero problems with this transfer.

    For ex. If we try to buy their best player right now like Enzo or Palmer they will go nuts for sure.

  • chebolita86@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    These are players out of form. It would be different if Rice/Martinelli/Saka were to go to Chelsea in the next window

  • SectorMindless@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    If you think there is no rivalry between Arsenal and Chelsea you’ve clearly never attended one of the games, watched it in a London pub, or have any friends who are fans of either club.

  • milkonyourmustache@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    It’s a case by case basis, depends on the player and the circumstances at the time but what tends to be mutual and consistent is that we wish whoever makes the switch nothing but the worst (at club level).

  • Rorviver@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    Its quite simple. Ashley Cole was potentially the best LB in the world in 2006 and also somewhat forced his way out of Arsenal. All of those other players were either out of favour, or not bought as starters anyways.

  • mvp-a1@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    Have you not seen the Havertz hate? Chelsea fans celebrate a Havertz bad touch like it’s 3 points

  • skrg187@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    There’s a difference between transferring (close to) washed-up players like Giroud, Luiz, Cech and Jorginho, or unwanted players like Kai. None of these players were expected to start for the selling team so there was no outcry.

    Ashley Cole was an academy project and an invincible, just entering his prime. He left THAT team over 5k in wages and silently started the selling off process. It’s completely different to the ones mentioned above.

  • lewismgza@alien.topB
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    10 months ago

    They should swap squads on bi-quarterly basis. And combine both squads to beat Tottenham 7-0.