• WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    What is opposing a war?

    People call themselves war opponents when they oppose invading Vietnam, which is good.

    People also call themselves war opponents when they oppose Ukraine defending itself, which is bad. They support Russia invading Ukraine. They support wars except the ones when the US is invading.

      • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
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        1 year ago

        A lot more context than Russian soldiers in Ukraine shooting down a civilian aircraft with Russian weapons?

    • avrachan@lemmings.world
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      1 year ago

      nobody opposes to Ukraine defending itself.

      Anti-War stance involves opposing Russia for invading Ukraine along with blood thirsty neoliberals like Victoria nuland who will sacrifice Ukrainian people to advance US strategic interest. They want this war to go on as long as they can make it go on. no price is too small.

      • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
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        1 year ago

        No one buys what you’re selling. Russia can end the war today, but they won’t, because they’re run by a literally evil kleptocratic dictator.

      • crackajack@reddthat.com
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        1 year ago

        The Ukrainians want to join the West than align with Russia. Conspiracy theories or not, the Ukrainians in the run-up to the Maidan revolution were agitated when then Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych reneged on the deal with the EU only to sign a deal with the Russians at the last minute. Unlikely that Ukrainians as a whole were somehow brainwashed and “coup” the government.

        No one ever asked the Ukrainians what they want, haven’t they? Or are we talking to Russian bots speaking on Ukrainians’ behalf because they think Ukrainians are their little brothers who doesn’t know any better? Ukraine is always “little Russia” for them, isn’t it?

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        1 year ago

        They want this war to go on as long as they can make it go on. no price is too small.

        Bullshit. Russia can end this war tomorrow by respecting the treaties it signed with Ukraine.

        The Treaty on Friendship, Cooperation, and Partnership between Ukraine and the Russian Federation was an agreement between Ukraine and Russia, signed in 1997, which fixed the principle of strategic partnership, the recognition of the inviolability of existing borders, and respect for territorial integrity and mutual commitment not to use its territory to harm the security of each other.

        Russia invaded. Russia can leave. Otherwise Ukraine has every right to defend itself and it’s allies are wise to arm it.