In light of what’s just happened to Everton FFP is once again a hot topic, and I just wanted to highlight some clear facts a lot of people are missing that show how the people who run football are hypocritical and are an absolute joke when it comes to running their own rules

FFP was first established in 2009 for the sole purpose to prevent professional football clubs spending more than they earn in the pursuit of success, and in doing so not getting into financial problems which might threaten their long-term survival. - this was implemented after the events that happened to Leeds where we almost lost them as a club. This purpose quickly changed, forgetting about the small clubs being abused and focused towards small clubs becoming successful by closing the financial gap between them and the big super teams. We’ve already seen from the creation of the super league that the big teams feel that they are threatened and want maintain their status at all cost, this is why the rules were adapted post 2012

You might say that a team like Man City shouldn’t be able increase their ability to spend because of their owners. But with the creation of the premier league and it’s large injection of money for the big teams, it’s seem that they made it impossible to get to the same level as them without money

Then their is the simple fact that man city have never spent more than the likes of Man Utd, Real Madrid and Barcelona. They’ve simply closed the gap. People hate them for their success, but it’s not cause of money, their owners could take over man utd tomorrow without injecting money and turn them back into world beaters. They are the kind of owners everyone wants, smart owners who aren’t greedy, who don’t take money out

I understand that the rules are the rules, but maybe the rules are wrong and designed to keep the big clubs fat and to prevent to competition. If we can’t take the money away from the big clubs then how else do we challenge them besides the way man city have done?

  • freedomfun28@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    I think we all already knew that - it’s not new … look at how many clubs are a joke … Juventus, PSG, Barca, Chelsea, Man City etc

    Football is an organised mafia because so much £ involved

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    10 months ago

    I agree. I think we should see Luton and Wigan Athletic and other tiny irrelevant clubs get bought out by billionaires and have them just win the league every year. What should matter most in football is who your owner is, not your history, tradition or any of that shite.

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    10 months ago

    You said - ‘FFP was first established in 2009 for the sole purpose to prevent professional football clubs spending more than they earn in the pursuit of success, and in doing so not getting into financial problems which might threaten their long-term survival’

    That is exactly what Everton have been doing. They have been spending huge money on washed up players for a decade now, and not getting the results to back that up. It was rather clear, over the last 2 seasons, that they simply don’t have the money to spend anymore.

    Their spending apparently resulted in a loss of £124m in one year alone. If a club is overspending and losing 124m per year, they are going to end up crippling themselves long term.

    It was clear to everyone, that Everton’s spending model was not a sustainable one. They messed up, and now they pay the price for that.

    If Everton actually placed in Europa spots a couple of times after spending hundreds of millions, maybe they would not be in the trouble they now find themselves in.

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    10 months ago

    When you comply with the rules 100% but still ffp gets you, ffp is broken.

    “Everton have cooperated with the Premier League — virtually to the point of prostrating themselves — in the past two years. Informing them of intentions to buy a player, outlining their rationale, asking if the league are comfortable with that, in what has been a transparent demonstration of their attempt to comply with profit and sustainability rules (PSR).”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12763871/Everton-Man-City-Premier-League.html

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      10 months ago

      That’s BS. The PL said it wasn’t their responsibility to ensure Everton kept within the rules and reminded them of their obligations. They continued to spend and spent too much. They didn’t act within the rules.

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        10 months ago

        They did, they changed the rules so we fell out by 19.5 million over a three year period. Can’t forecast or plan for that. That’s part of why irs being appealed

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    10 months ago

    City “are the kind of owners everyone wants, smart owners who aren’t greedy, who don’t take money out”, I am not sure this is true, and of course they don’t take money out.

    “People hate them for their success, but it’s not cause of money” - No doubt their success is the cause for a lot of people’s negative attitude towards them, but their success is absolutely due to their money and near unrestricted spending.

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      10 months ago

      When Liverpool and more recently United had Arab billionaires sniffing around them the fans have been begging for them to take over 🤣

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        10 months ago

        I’m not sure rival fan’s hypocrisy makes sporting integrity issues correct though. By all means call them out for it, but cheating (if proven) shouldn’t just be accepted, regardless of the club involved.

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    10 months ago

    “maybe the rules are wrong and designed to keep the big clubs fat and to prevent to competition.

    This was the main goal and purpose of FFP from day 1. The big historical club hegemony were threatened by the ease with which a newcomer like Abramovic could join their ranks. Look at Newcastle’s slow building process in comparison. They also have unlimited funds, but can’t follow the same model of Chelsea or Manchester City.

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      10 months ago

      If Newcastle’s owners weren’t state backed, but were just random billionaires operating exactly as they are now, no one would care what they’re doing, because they’re not doing everything in their power to circumvent the rules everyone else is following. Everyone’s issue with Newcastle is the potential political bollocks that comes with them, but that’s a separate issue entirely.

      People take issue with Chelsea and City because they’ve come in, and quite obviously done everything they can to circumvent rules and plough unsustainable funds in to the clubs. This in turn has created genuine, inflated revenue streams for them and created a massive illegitimate advantage. A club spending its own earned money isn’t an issue whereas clubs being propped up solely by ownership investment definitely is.