• JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    ‘Fall rather than decrease’ wtf? And it’s a good thing for there to be less people, there are too many in the world anyway.

    The fantasy of infinite growth seems to include people as well to capitalists, and as I already mentioned, it’s a fantasy.

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              We currently produce more than enough food and clothes for every person on this planet and could easily house them all.

              The problem is that because of capitalism we can’t get what everyone needs to them because it might hurt someone’s profits.

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                1 year ago

                this is the reality no one wants to admit because it points out a major flaw in the human psyche… that is, the ability to lack empathy by distance. the farther away people are, the less we care about them.

                this is obvious is every facet of our daily existence, and is provable by the lack of dense conservative centers and how easily swayed those brought physically close to those remote entities (mentally or physically) become empathetic.

                humans suck, and we are the cause of resources not going where they are needed.

      • xePBMg9@lemmynsfw.com
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        1 year ago

        Infinite growth is inherently incompatible with life. It does not work. The biosphere is under immense pressure already. Humanity extinct 4 species every day and has killed off 90% of wild animals in the last 100 years. Nature is the greatest repository of knowledge that we have. It is invaluable to our science, though we treat it as expendable. It’s like burning all libraries. We are simply using too much land in an effort to support a shitty economical model that is based on population growth, forever. This is the kind of problem that humanity has proven to be ineffectual at solving. Long term and noone will take action unless it blows up in their faces, personally, right now. Let the next generation deal with it. That is what they said in the 50s and that is what they will say in 10 years too. The damage done to the biosphere is practically permanent. Once an animal or plant is extinct, it is gone. Once enough of them is gone, the planet no longer supports complex life.

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          We don’t need to be using resources the way we do. It’s again a result of consumerism.

          We could easily support a way bigger population if we used resources better.

          If we stopped worrying about money so much science would easily be able to fix many of these problems.