• golden_zealot@lemmy.ml
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    8 days ago

    The real move here is probably to allow the Nominee to select the category that they think best suits them.

    • Ulrich@feddit.org
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      non-binary wouldn’t fit in either existing category. The real move here would be to eliminate gendered categories since this isn’t even a sport and no gender has any distinct advantage.

      • FundMECFS@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        7 days ago

        While I agree in theory the problem in practice due to industry bias and sexism is basically only men will win

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          Women exist and are equal to men in artistic spheres. There is no reason they can’t compete for the same award.

          The need for separate recognition of men and women implies separate standards for men and women.

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            If Hollywood considered them equal, they would be paid the same as men for similar roles. While that can happen, it’s still the exception. And usually only happens for women who’ve won awards.

            When Hollywood stops basing pay on gender, then we can get rid of the gendered awards.

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              7 days ago

              And having separate categories solves that how? You’re just perpetuating the very thing you’re declaring is a problem.

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                The current system is less than ideal, but at least with gendered awards, women have a shot at getting awards which translates into bigger future paychecks. What you’re proposing is that the same industry that currently ignores equal pay for women is somehow going to recognize them in a category against the men who are already getting paid more than them?!

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                  This doesn’t solve equal pay, it just perpetuates the misogynist notion that women aren’t good enough to compete with men.

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            I think they were trying to call out that women are still underrepresented in a lot of different ways. Removing gendered based awards reduces the opportunities for women to be recognized, if you believe they are underrepresented.

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              Its not an opportunity for them to be recognized, it’s an opportunity for them to be belittled. Like “oh you’re totally the best woman actor, congratulations! Maybe one day you’ll be as good as the men!”

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    “I have a guttural, ‘That’s not quite right,’ instinct to [being called an actress],” Ramsey said. “But I just don’t take it too seriously… it doesn’t feel like an attack on my identity.”

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      So, genuine question. If someone is non-binary (which I believe Bella has said they are), does that mean that they are in the run for best actress? Or best actor? It sounds like it’s best actress but it seems like a bit of a difficult one. What would happen with someone with pronouns opposite of their birth gender?

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    Once again the title of the article says ‘gender’ but the entire article only mentions sexes. Come on…

    A brief explanation:
    ‘Man’ and ‘woman’ are now binary references to the individual’s gender if known to be such, or appearance if said individual presents as mostly masculine or feminine in a social setting, as the terms have always been used to refer to a person. In contrast, ‘male’ and ‘female’ are references to the individual’s sex and genitalia. Gender is not sex.

    Additionally:
    Gender is the name given to an aspect of personality relating to a few traits that have been defined by current societal ideals as masculine or feminine, quantified with a whole set of labels because people must be quantifiable by tickboxes, apparently. Sex is originally assigned at birth by many hospitals and population censuses once the existence of reproductive organs on the individual has been verified as male or female, and regardless of whether an internal reproductive system transplant takes place, can be changed.

    Older folk are confused, because they’ve been referring to sexes as genders for decades. We need to get this right.

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      We need to get this right.

      Step one is going to be working out vocabulary among yourselves before you start trying to teach it to us. I used to try to be correct, but the “correct” tends changed from person to person, group to group, and every six months or so.

      Once you’ve figured it out, let us old folks know, and most of us will, I hope, make the adjustment.

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        You can try to use the new corrections every six months or so? As for who to go for, it’s legitimately your choice. In the end the flow of language has to be ridden rather than restricted aha