He’s openly plotting to persecute his enemies, assume kinglike powers, and deport millions of people. But at least we’ll all have flying cars!

Many of Trump’s proposals for his second term are surprisingly extreme, draconian, and weird, even for him. Here’s a running list of his most unhinged plans.

  • livus@kbin.social
    20·
    10 months ago

    Ok that escalated. Starts with usual giving himself powers stuff but ends up with Federal “freedom cities” and flying cars.

    • agent_flounder@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21·
      10 months ago

      Freedom to do what, murder LGBTQ+, lefties, people of color, and so forth? Because that’s what I have to assume he means by “Freedom.”

      • AggressivelyPassive@feddit.de
        6·
        10 months ago

        Given the libertarian influences, I’d assume they’re supposed to be hyper-privatized free trade zones or special economic zones. That means low or no taxes, hardly any regulations, unhinged capitalism for everything.

        It’s the same bullshit libertarians have been praising for decades now and that’s been tried and failed again and again. Remember that crypto cruise ship?

    • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
      121·
      10 months ago

      Freedom cities sound like freedom fries.

      I remember back after 9/11 and France called us on the bullshit… the state legislature voted to call them freedom fries in the capital cafeteria. (I was in highschool and lobbying for some environmental stuff. My former math teacher was our rep, so, we went to lunch and talked about things.)

      In any case, those fries were not free, and they weren’t fried. (Orida frozen… stuffed in a microwave…)

      Also? As a side note, the reason flying cars are not a thing is because nobody has found a way to make free energy yet- anything that flies has to expend energy to counter gravity- on airplanes, the wings push air down and it moves forward. In things that hover it’s either the rotors/fans/jet engines pushing air.

      That expenditure just doesn’t exist on normal ground vehicles.

      • livus@kbin.social
        3·
        10 months ago

        @FuglyDuck that’s so funny, I was literally telling people the freedom fries thing was real earlier today! Someone younger than us had thought it was just a myth or satire.

        (Over here - sorry not sure how to link it via your instance but you get the picture).

        • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
          51·
          10 months ago

          Yeah. I remember being incredulous when I saw the menu, me and the other highschool kid. The Rep explained that they actually passed a bill for that to be renamed; in this tone of voice dripping with sarcasm. I’m not sure if it happened federally or in other states, but it happened here- it only applied to the state capital cafeterias, though.

          • livus@kbin.social
            4·
            10 months ago

            Wikipedia seems to think it happened in many places. I don’t think people realize how bizarre some of that stuff was.

            • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
              81·
              10 months ago

              Yeah.

              It was bizarre. The US lost it’s damn mind and went full on crazy. I remember asking what Iraq did and getting called a traitor. (They were mostly Saudis? And Saudis funded?)

              I also remember bejng asked why I wasn’t joining up… like, dude, let me graduate highschool first…

              • nilloc@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
                4·
                10 months ago

                Knowing now that Bin-Laden had been in Pakistan and we kinda knew almost where for a long time really makes the Iraq invasion so much worse.

                I went and protested it in Copley Square the night before we invaded Iraq. I’m glad I did it, but it seemed to do fuck all. Possibly lead to Batak Obamass presidency, which I’m happy about, but that in turn may have lead Trump’s as well.

                I can’t help wonder how different the world would have been with Gore as president. Even social media may have been regulated differently with a moderately (or even slightly) tech savvy administration, though that’s probably a stretch.

                • spaceghoti@lemmy.oneOPEnglish
                  1·
                  10 months ago

                  I can’t help wonder how different the world would have been with Gore as president. Even social media may have been regulated differently with a moderately (or even slightly) tech savvy administration, though that’s probably a stretch.

                  It’s not a stretch. The antitrust lawsuits brought by nine states and the Justice Department against Microsoft was made to simply go away under the Bush administration. Our technology would probably look very different today without Microsoft’s monopoly, and without that who knows what the rest of the map would look like?

                • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  11·
                  10 months ago

                  I can’t help wonder how different the world would have been with Gore as president. Even social media may have been regulated differently with a moderately (or even slightly) tech savvy administration, though that’s probably a stretch.

                  I can’t even imagine. I think 9/11 would have still happened… I don’t think they’d have caught it; and I don’t think we’d have just… not responded.

              • livus@kbin.social
                1·
                10 months ago

                Yikes. The pressure must have been really intense. I’m in NZ and I lost a bunch of US internet friends (some I’d met irl) for not being enthusiastic about attacking Afghanistan.

                • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  41·
                  10 months ago

                  In the immediate family, it wasn’t too terrible. It was a certain uncle, that I never speak to any more thinking I should be signing up. (he’s as deep into MAGA world as anyone, the only reason he wasn’t at Jan 6 was he’s too broke to go.)

                  Most everyone else kind of would just… not talk about it? By the time i did graduate, all the fervor wore off into a kind of … refusal to accept we’d been lied to? I dunno weird times.

                  I will say this. It definitely colors my understanding of what’s going on with Palestine. Seems to be that history is rhyming again.

            • Tacomama@reddthat.com
              3·
              10 months ago

              Wikipedia is correct. I was 34 on 9/11. There was so much of this crazy bs. The freedom fries thing was rampant. I lived a few blocks from a mosque, and sadly there were several threats, picketers and vandalism for several years.

        • braxy29@lemmy.world
          2·
          10 months ago

          just checked with one of my teenagers, confirmed they didn’t know freedom fries. which makes sense of course, but i took it for granted they must have heard - it was such a bizarre thing to me at the time!

  • voracitude@lemmy.world
    41·
    10 months ago

    Trump is already disqualified from holding any office, let alone that of the President, under section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment.

    https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4591133

    Page 17:

    V. The persons who framed Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment regarded the President of the United States as an officer of the United States

    The President of the United States was among the officials who took the oath to the Constitution that under Section Three triggered disqualification for participating in an insurrection. As noted in the previous section, the persons responsible for the Fourteenth Amendment sought to bar from present and future office all persons who betrayed their constitutional oath. “All of us understanding the meaning of the third section,” Senator John Sherman of Ohio stated, “those men who have once taken an oath of office to support the Constitution of the United States and have Fourteenth Amendment distinguished between the presidential oath mandated by Article II and violated that oath in spirit by taking up arms against the Government of the United States are to be deprived for a time at least of holding office.” No member of the Congress that drafted the the oath of office for other federal and state officers mandated by Article VI. Both were oaths to support the Constitution. Senator Garrett Davis of Kentucky saw no legal difference between the constitutional requirement that “all officers, both Federal and State, should take an oath to support” the Constitution and the constitutional requirement that the president “take an oath, to the best of his ability to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution.” Senator James Doolittle of Wisconsin declared that Congress need not pass laws requiring presidents to swear to support the Constitution because that “oath is specified in the constitution.”

    • BigMacHole@lemm.ee
      11·
      10 months ago

      That doesn’t EXPLICITLY say they can’t be President. - a Judge in Colorado who probably would also rule the framers PROBABLY meant AR15s in the Second Amendment despite it not being explicitly said.

      • voracitude@lemmy.world
        0·
        10 months ago

        Yes, actually, that’s exactly what it means. He broke his oath of office. He is not fit to hold any public office including that of the President, and he is barred from holding office by the Constitution of the United States. Period dot, and of story.

        • dvoraqs@lemmy.world
          01·
          10 months ago

          There are people in powerful positions who may try to interpret this as favorably to Trump as possible to let him off the hook for it, holding as much integrity for themselves as they can while still achieving the goal. Are you sure it will hold up? I’m not, unfortunately.

  • LinkOpensChest.wav@lemmy.one
    1175·
    10 months ago

    he only managed to expel several hundred thousand people per year, which is similar to the number of deportations during other recent administrations

    Sadly, the Democrats have proven themselves to be just as fascistic when it comes to immigration. I got talked into voting Biden, but I’d be lying if I said that I don’t question that decision every day.

    One of the first things Biden did was to build more concentration camps, and one of the first things his supporters did was make excuses for that.

    Edit: Oh yikes, the fascism defenders and concentration camp explainers have appeared in droves in my inbox 😬

    Scroll down for exhibit A…