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+1 for nano. I just need to change two parameters in a config file, not join a religion.
When the holy war comes, you’ll be among the first sacrifices!
Ehh, that’s fine. I’m not too psyched about living in whatever comes afterward.
Wouldn’t the first be Vimulation users? They are the Pretenders.
Blasphemers!
Amen!
I just need to change two parameters in a config file, not join a religion.
But Nano is a GNU utility what use Ctrl-O for Save.
No wonder I can never remember how to do anything in nano, at least vi’s commands generally make sense
Nano is only helpfull because of this nifty little info bar at the bottom… No one can actually remember nano-shortcuts.
Up down left and right?
I guess ctrlx enter y ? But it has a prompt
I was talking with a sysadmin once who intentionally removed nano and emacs from any system he was granted access to. His explanation was “if they can’t use vim I don’t want them on my machines”
There’s a sysadmin at my place who does exactly that. He’s kind of an idiot too.
Shocked
If a sysadmin expected me to use vim for every minor config tweak, I wouldn’t want to be on their machines either.
Sounds like it works then.
Win:win ;)
I find vim quicker and easier for quick edits too, mostly because I’ve not bothered to learn anything but vim since it’s on everything (except, for some odd reason, the default build of Gentoo)
Once you get the hang of it it’s just so much quicker for small and big tasks.
Check out vim adventures:
Or just install vimtutor and try around. The basics are pretty simple, and the more advanced stuff infinitely helpful.
Why? Nano doesn’t need training, and even for config the engineers shouldnt be able to impact production without review. Sysadmin needs to retire
and the more advanced stuff infinitely helpful.
Thanks, no. At that point i use sed, grep or a GUI editor.
I don’t find nano any easier for minor tweaks than vim
A vim user finding nano too difficult? Impressive.
Wow, I hope he didnt choose their distro for them too.
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Poor Ubuntu users would be needlessly persecuted!
OS shaming? That’s low
I usually just don’t give out the root password but what do I know lol
Imho on any server today all editors should be removed. You edit on your workstation and provision to the server.
Brilliant! I don’t entirely disagree with that. I had vim forced on me at my old job, including actual vi on some of the more ancient systems. I got so used to it that I don’t really know how to use nano and definitely not emacs.
I never understood what the big deal was. Write. Quit. If you can’t remember that ‘w’ means write and ‘q’ means quit, I don’t know how else to help. Add in some decent options in your vimrc and it is pretty comfortable. I am in no way some guru who knows every shortcut and fancy command out there, but I like using it and it is the first thing I install on a new system.
I am not one to judge what text editor, OS, phone, car, or computer you like. You do you. If I was a sysadmin that had to deal with people who really shouldn’t be on those systems and that was an easy way to discourage people from screwing with it, then hell yeah.
Knowing VIM does not make one a better sys-admin. You can be an idiot, and still know how to drive Vi/Vim. There is FAR FAR FAR more to managing an OS and than that. If you think requiring VIM is enough to keep unknowledgeable people away from servers, you are probably the one who shouldn’t be managing servers.
Here’s the one reason why I decided to learn Vim rather than emacs: You will find Vim installed somewhere on basically any Unix-like system running in the world. It’s the one I can virtually guarantee is there, as part of busybox if nothing else.
Except for Gentoo, for some odd reason they’ve never included it in the stage tarball so it always has to be installed manually
Which is even weirder when you realize it is included on the live install iso, so you’ll be using it up until you chroot and all of a sudden find it’s not available anymore
That’s a bit like…at one point during Linux Mint’s installation, it removes gparted. gparted is included in the Live environment, but not in the standard install.
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What makes you think only people with admin access use a machine? He wouldn’t allow it for anyone, admin or not.
I’ve been using Vim for years, cause I can’t figure out how to close it.
You came because it looked exciting…
You stayed because you couldn’t leave.
You open up a new session and reboot. Always works for me.
As a nano user, I fully agree.
Seriously. Nano is the best.
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Seriously… it isn’t
Shift+ZZvi comment
o right there with ya bud.esc :wq!
EMACS is a great operating system, it only lacks a good editor.
eVil mode. It’s next on my TODO list to try, so I can go back to Emacs’ fantastic Haskell mode without knackering my left pinkie.
Why not eVim?
Just that I already know Emacs’ Haskell mode is great. If I get back into Haskelling I suppose I should look around options.
Vim lacks anything good, except maybe the keybindings.
Really the users of any other editor. We just see you as a bunch of nerds. But you build good stuff
I ONLY EDIT TEXT BY TOGGLING OUT ASCII CODES ON A ROW OF SWITCHES DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO MY PARALLEL PORT\n
I know your lying, because if you did, you would write a mix of capital and lower case letter, because one of the switches would control that bit
I COULD ONLY AFFORD SIX SWITCHES. BIT 5 HAS A PULLDOWN RESISTOR ON IT\n
Just use notepad++ with wine like any normal person do
Notepadqq is a thing, you know.
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That’s horrific
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If I have to edit in a terminal: micro
If I need to edit something larger, and want a GUI: Kate
Anything else I flirt with and then drop promptly once I can’t find the time to really learn it.
Jesus, why can’t people just expose their drives to cosmic radiation and have it switch the bits in the file? So much time wasted writing useless editors.
Of course, Rebecca* has a shortcut for that, too.
*GBoard decided that was the right word when I swiped ‘Emacs’. It is now formerly-known-as-Emacs’ new name.
The only editor I need:
Create: printf “TEXT” > FILE
Add: printf “TEXT” >> FILE
No room for mistakes.
Should both be the same commands. Adding should be done by remembering previous contents, no other way is allowed.
Just use sed -i like God intended.
I recently worked on a system that had the TERM variable botched and filtered and no nano, just vim. It was all hell. The escape sequences in vim wouldn’t work. I ended up suspendig it with ctrl+z, killing it, then editing the config with fucking ed and sed. That hoster sucks.
Name and shame.
Vim can do much more than nano, but for it to work, quite a few specific stars need to align, and if they don’t you are screwed.
Nano on the other had just works. If it exists in your env.
Oh, vim. I wish I knew how to quit you.
: q !
unless you accidentally pressed “q” to early and entered recording-mode…
Only if you don’t want to save the file
:x saved the file and exits.
Nano, based.
If I use VI or VIM I’m going to have to kill the task because I just tried to exit and uggggghhhh why!?
:q! or :exit or :quit or ZZ…there’s lots of ways to quit Vim.
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and why should it be? vim and its bindings are extremely popular. should window managers all use alt+f4 to kill programs, just because its familiar to new users?
Yes.
