Our little instance is closing to 6 months of operations and it occurs to me I never really asked for some open feedback from our peeps. So I wanted to start a discussion to see your concerns and comments in general. So tell me, in the context of the divisions by zero, what bothers you, what pleases you, what would you like to see improved.

Feel free to share your thoughts about anything.

  • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    That was really bad start for a post.
    Our little instance is closing...

    Idk about feedback, keep doing amazing work and seeding Disney

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    This got me. A little dangerous sentence to start post with 😄 I’m not a user from dbzer0, but I appreciate your work on Fediseer 🙏

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    It feels like there has not been a whole lot of drama while I’ve been here. I really like that - the ability to scurry off to the other instances and witness their happenings, and then return to our own little safe haven.

    We (as an instance, according to my observations) do appear to have some run-ins with a certain other instance every now and again, but they don’t appear too much of an annoyance if you don’t interact or engage their taunts.

    I love that @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com is also a contributor of fed-related projects. Makes it feel a little more personal.

    If I were to note anything bad, it might be that I feel reluctance towards the stable diffusion communities. Mostly because I’m not sure whether their training data is ethically sourced. But that and more is a concern I have regarding AI in general, as automating our hobbies was kinda the opposite many initially wanted it for, namely automating labor so we can instead do our hobbies. Not I can judge anyone automating a hobby, as I’m kinda skimping the edge myself, but we, us who work with MLAI, should generally try and push away from any dystopian futures.

    All in all, I’m happy being here. Thank you @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com for providing this space! And for everyone else on this instance, don’t forget to appreciate it, either by donations or labor, as that is how we keep such spaces running.

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        MLAIs need to be trained before they can be used, and the data an MLAI might need depends on the type of AI. The diffusion AIs often rely on artwork which mostly is gathered from artists trying to make a living off of their hobby - the professional “hobby” artists kinda being the forerunners of what many envisioned AI would hopefully lead to in the future.

        Now, if we carelessly use these artist’s artwork, copyright or not, we might remove or inhibit their ability to live off what they love, which would be a giant blow against those of us fighting for AI as a relief of forced work and enabler of personal freedom.

        My concern is therefore, in a world where many use AI without consideration for enshittfication of others lives, do the models often used on dbzer0’s communities just scrape the internet of training material, or do those who make and sanitize the datasets ask the artists for permission/use openly available (using the equivalent of the unlicense) material instead?

        dbzero0 is a instance which represents copyleft, but my impression is that it also represents the want for more personal control and being able to do whatever one wants. Though, I’m unsure if the general community consensus is to do whatever one wants even at the expense of other common people (everyone for themselves, kinda like the big corps do), or if the community consensus is to do whatever one wants while making sure that others also have the ability to do so (FOSS, commissioning the little man instead of buying from big corps, donating money or labor to small communities instead of being the product of some large social media platform).

        I really do like being part of dbzer0, but this question on the instance’s stance has held me back from recommending the instance in my circle of friends.

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            I guess it comes down to whether AI should have the same rights as humans, or rather those of a tool.

            The idea is not to stop making diffusion art, but to limit it a little, so the tool cannot be used to shamelessly copy a distinctive artists style without consent. Similar limitations would also be healthy for other disciplines, except perhaps those which generally are not considered hobbies or recreation.

            And you are right about relevancy to the post, though I think it’s good to talk about this as it is a technology which soon will fill a considerable amount of our lives, and the instance kinda focuses on it.

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    Honestly I don’t have much to complain about, you’re running the instance pretty well. I think my only complaint (and this is more of a nitpick really) is since the scope of dbzero is mostly reserved for piracy, anarchism and AI related discussion it doesn’t really have that many interesting communities in it. I say this because basically almost every single community I’m subscribed to comes from other instances, and given that dbzero is quite large (for Lemmy standards) I believe that if the scope wasn’t so narrow it could have a much more diverse and flourishing set of communities.

    Otherwise, you’re doing great.

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      To be fair those topics are not mandatory. Anyone can open a community about anything except the forbidden subjects in the sidebar

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        F̶̨̛̺͍̘̯̩͇̱̱͇͈͔̟͔̗̦͖͂̓̋͛̈́̉̅́̅̒͗̈́͑̊͊͋̊͂̑́̋̅̀̇̃̊̏̄̚̕͘͜͝͝ǫ̶̡̰͔̗̱͉̠̠͎͎̗̥͚̜̹͖̀̈́̒̄͋̀́̏͂̚̕ͅr̸̨̨̡͓̺̪̜͇͔͙̳̖̱̗͍̮̗͉̼̗͎̹̣̖̬͚̺̦̼̭̯͕̭̀̿́̃̅̾̓͗͜͠b̵̢̡̛̞̯͈̩̯̝̘̪̤̖͈̝͈̠̦͚͉̣͎̥͓̩̟̮͕͈̜̬̹̆͊̏̈́̀̊̆̂͆̀̿̓̇͆̒̿̑̆͋̀͐͊̃͌̏̎͛̓̒́̈̕͘͘͜͜ͅi̴̛̖̝̱͕̥̜̺̳̯̲̣̱̖̾̔̀̅̊̿́̈́͝ͅd̷̛͙̪͕̻̹͕̲̯̣̙̩͉̯͎̞̯͇̤̮̥̬͙͙̰̺̺͕̲͓͙͌͑͋̋́̓͑̓͐̌̈́́̀̀̓̂̅͋͑̾̔́͜d̸̢̨̢̛̜̺̞̰͖̣̘̱͉̝͙͕͇̭͉̳͕͚̻́̊͒͜ͅe̷͙͚͈̒n̷̗͔͙̼̜͇̖̘̗͈̘̗͔̰̲̫̆̄̈́̇̄̕͜ͅ ̷̧̹̳͊̓̀͋̋͛̉̒̌́̈̊̒̿͒̆̕͜͝s̴̡̧̜͙̳̘͙̱̳͔̘̺̮̥̲̣̳̬̭̟̐̆͋͆́̎̓̏͊͂̿̓̀́̊̋̓͆̈́̈́́̄͑̽́͗̐̀́͐̚͘͠ų̸̡̡̢̡̛̯͈̙̮̼͓̮̟͕̙͍̱͈̪̹̼̖͍̦̯̜͈͎̼̟̮̒̽̕ͅͅb̶̨̛̦͍̮̣̺̳͇͚̩̹͍̤̤͈̗̗̿̈́̉̽̅͆͗͌̆͋̓̋̓̉̑̓͘j̸̢̮̞̲̫̤̙̎̈́̏̇̔͂̀̽̔̑̏̂̆̄̃̈́̈́́̀̈͘̚͘͝͠ḛ̷̡̧̛̛̛̎͂̃͛͐̓̾͛̈́̾̃͆͂̋̈́͐̍̈͋̏̉̓́͗̈́̓̋͜͝͠ć̷̥͍̤͙̞͉͔̩̞̘͔͎͔̗̪̗̠͇̗͖͜ẗ̵̢̡̡͖̞͇̘̠̰͔͖̺̼̣̩͎̥̜̦͉͍̝̔͂͒̄̍́̀̿̽̈́͘s̸̛̻͉̞̳͎̩̞͍̬̮̮̮̪̜͉̟̫͛̏͂̒̈̓͑̈́͊́̊̚͠͝ͅ

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    I made an account here FIRST on lemmy, but moved to world a week in or so because that was a more active instance

    When they stupidly banned communities from here I came back and literally have said out loud that I’m unsure why I ever left

    It’s a perfect home for lemmy for me (a weird lurker who loves piracy and shrooms and whatnot) and the “is closing” scared the shit out of me lol

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      It’s a perfect home for lemmy for me (a weird lurker who loves piracy and shrooms and whatnot) and the “is closing” scared the shit out of me lol

      1000% this. It’s nice to have a place where people are also interested in the weird shit that I like/care about like piracy/cannabis/etc. Additionally, most people I know don’t give a shit about privacy and don’t understand how wrong the “I don’t have anything to hide so what do I care”.

      This was the only instance that I felt like I immediately identified with, so that being said, keep doing what you’re doing OP.

      I also had to reread the “is closing” part several times hoping I was reading it wrong.

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    When starting out here I ended up with a few accounts on different Lemmy/Kbin instances, interestingly the dbzero instance usually has the best overall performance/uptime from what I’ve seen. So no complaints here :)

    For what it’s worth I’m usually on here via Tor & haven’t had issues on dbzero, a lot of other Lemmy instances trip up over Tor connections and end up with crappy performance with Cloudflare/captchas/etc. or just block it outright.

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    Sorry for being off topic, but I feel a sudden urge to search for treasure on a small Caribbean island, following nothing but a pencil sketch and a rumor.

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    It’s great, a great instance, the best one really. Seriously just love it. I can’t believe my luck landing here first try.

    Grog’s on me, boys!

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    Mates, tell me your troubles

    what bothers you

    That guy’s thumb in that pic.

    And what’s his other hand doing under that paper? sus

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    No troubles! Thanks for a kooky, but stable slice of Lemmy. I’ve been trying to stay low on smaller instances and several have gone down already (growing pains; no one’s fault).

    Love the vibes and the anarchism 🤘

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    I’m enjoying your instance, thanks. No problems here. In fact it’s great to use while in the company of family knowing there’s not going to be any NSFW surprises.

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    I would appreciate a defederation from Hexbear. I’m really tired of getting swarmed by them and having to see their invariably shit political takes. I spoke a bit about it on the thread you made on /c/anarchism, but I thought I might as well speak about it again, since you asked.

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      If they just say shit tankie takes, it’s allowed in general. If they start harassing you for say, rejecting left unity, please report

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        I mean, one of their mods told me I should be put against a wall and shot, and no response from an admin when it was pointed out as a problem. Does that count?

        I don’t think they should be defederated, but I ain’t happy with the laissez faire attitude their instance takes to such things if you’re deemed “other” enough to “warrant harassment.”

        I could have been more observant and realized I was commenting in a hexbear community, but “don’t tell people they should be shot” is usually a pretty hard and fast rule in moderation.