This week I was honored to be the guest on The Home Front podcast with Reed Galen from The Lincoln Project. We had a wide-ranging conversation about the history behind our current moment and discussed some thoughts for how we might get out of this mess. A lightly edited transcript is included below.

From the show notes: “They discuss how decades-old grievances around money, power, and identity have fused with new technology to threaten democracy, the rise of authoritarian networks fueled by crypto and tech billionaires, and why defending the status quo isn’t enough to save free societies. Plus, the urgent need to rebuild human connections in an era of tribalism and online radicalization.”