You can’t dim a fixture that needs phased dimming with a neutral without a neutral properly.
Yes, my one wall switch has a neutral wire. I’m not a caveman.
And what’s wrong with the no-neutral required smart switches that are currently on the market?
Zero I just fit a Shelly one in the light fitting and leave the switch as is
0 have a neutral, I’m a caveman.
UK based and 10. You’ll find a big market for no neutral here.
Alot of light fittings can’t fit devices here and also a number of 2 way switches don’t even have a live at the fitting.
UK here and zero.
New build house that is using loop @switch i.e. the live goes switch to switch and the light fitting gets a single cable to the rose providing the switched live power from the switch.
It has made 1,2 &3 way lights really easy to convert.
Still uses ring rather than radial for sockets annoyingly.
I have found I can fit sonoff minis into both metal and plastic 35mm boxes. However, removing the box, wiring up in a maintenance free box with wago lever clips, put that in the wall cavity and feed a new cable for the switch only back into the box and doing it back up is a god solution.
Alternatively, put a single gang box at the same height as extraction fan isolation switches (almost roof) with a blanking plate and intercept the wiring there.
Outside the U.S., no neutral and 10. Shellys are a brilliant stopgap but for those of us with spotlights/downlights it’s impossible to get to the neutral at the fittings. Bonus points for 2/3 gang no neutral switches.
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Have a big old house with very few neutrals at light switches.
I have a very old home and over half my boxes are no neutral. A good no neutral switch that is affordable and reliable would always be welcomed.
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US, old house, no neutrals anywhere, 10. Most of my switches are no-neutral Zwave with a few Lutron Caseta where I wanted dimmers. A couple of them are still the original Despard switches because there’s no room for a 4-gang box between the door and window, so those have Zigbee bulbs.
1, no need