McKinsey said cities could adapt to the declining demand for office space by “taking a hybrid approach themselves,” developing multi-use office and retail space and constructing buildings that can be easily adapted to serve different purposes.

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    Even though 99% of the work is done (foundation, and structural framework is installed, HVAC is functional, fire alarms and locks all where they need to be) there would be some small changes like installing more showers so we’re told that converting these buildings is unfeasible.

    I think that the media pushes that story because rich corporate media people all have millions in real estate that’s artificially propped up by blocking new construction. If we can convert office space, the housing market bubble would pop overnight.

    Fingers crossed though, I’d love to get a downtown apartment, and my city is full of vacant office space.

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      Seriously… I don’t care if I had to use a communal bathroom as long as there was an agreed upon cleaning plan. Hell, it could continue to be office cleaning services that get paid by a tenant fund for all I care. Keep them employed in some capacity, why not.

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        Having ten apartments on one floor requires less toilets and plumbing than having 100 people working on one floor.

        Installing a bathroom is easy. Installing ten bathrooms is easy.

        These buildings aren’t being converted because it’s impossible to do or because living conditions would be harsh if they were converted - these buildings aren’t being converted because people calling the shots don’t want to miss out on those fat profits they’re still hoping to make.

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          I agree. My comment was more to imply, “I don’t even care if they convert it, just let it happen.”

          Some buildings already have showers and shitty gyms, too. Some even have full kitchens already. Some are logistically fully livable as-is, maybe with with very minor tweaks and some compromises on living style.

          If some buildings are THAT close to fully usable, it’s obviously bullshit to say it’s not a viable solution. It wouldn’t solve all problems, but no solution solves all problems.

          (also it’s not like office buildings are fucking DESIGNED to be easily remodeled or something…)

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        My guess is that developers don’t think enough people would accept a communal bathroom for it to be profitable. It’s also possible they don’t think low income people are deserving of housing, so they won’t spend money to benefit them.

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      A more serious problem than getting per-unit plumbing into buildings is the fact that commercial real estate is designed fundamentally differently than residential - as in the fact that there’s a large amount of interior space which would be entirely without windows. This is often illegal, but even if permitted it’s quite undesirable. Just look at what happened to Munger Hall - it was considered cruel enough that they cancelled the plans for it.

      99% Invisible did a great episode on this subject which I highly recommend that you listen to: https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/office-space/

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      Modular bathrooms and cabins are easily manufactured and easy to install in an open plan area that is stripped back.

      Same as the ones used in ships.

      https://cruiseshipinteriors-expo.com/prefab-cabin-design-in-cruise/

      These are flash cruise ship ones but much simpler bathroom and cabin arrangements are available for commercial shipping.

      It would be straight forward to strip down an open plan office. Do a 3D laser scan. Do some algorithms ….then cram as many prefabricated modules in as the HVAC and plumbing allows.