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    Wait, that’s how they’re actually dressed? They just look like random people. The fact that they don’t get shot more speaks a lot about how well behaved the people they are kidnapping are.

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      They’re also going after the population that are probably the unlikeliest to own firearms. That being said, if you’re brown and not carrying a firearm and your “papers”, you should probably change your habits. Fuck me, it’s disgusting that this is the case in America.

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      They’d blend in a lot better if they didn’t look like old western bandits about to rob a train with those masks.

      Cowards. All of them. I hope they all get doxxed.

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        That was written when the people and the government had access to the same level of firepower.

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      They don’t get shot because guns are for mass-shootings.

      Haven’t read a single story where a gun was used against the tyrannical government / cops.

      Mostly because you can’t “self-defence” agaist the police in the US. You will always be shot to death on the spot.

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    There is absolutely no proof that these people are ICE, or any other agents of the state. Do not assume masked strangers throwing people in vehicles are law enforcement. Especially if they don’t identify themselves.

    We all need to stop making this assumption, and to start encouraging others to also not make this assumption.

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      My favorite so far is the people who follow these fuckers around with megaphones and broadcast the rights people have when dealing with ICE, numbers of local lawyers and advocates, and other instructions to help people either avoid the interaction or at least have a fighting chance to due process if they are detained.

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      I get what you mean. But, materially, there is not much of a difference. You should absolutely do everything in your power to stop or resist them.

      They are Nazis with a badge or Nazis without a badge. That badge doesn’t change what should be done to them by anyone that sees them. They should not feel safe getting out of their van. There are more of us. Get organized and be ready to be that 2nd or 3rd or 4th random stranger that is brave enough to standup to them.

      Nazi’s aren’t brave. They are wimpy little losers. That’s why they are Nazis. Don’t let them feel safe anywhere they go.

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      are you implying anyone was making this assumption? any group of thugs could pretend to be ICE this way

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    No badges, no uniforms, driving unmarked vehicles and wearing masks? Those are obviously kidnappers, Your Honor.

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    A handy guide to America:

    Wearing a mask to prevent the spread of infection during a global pandemic? It’s an excuse to hide your face, you literally cannot breate through it, and it’s a symbol of leftist fascism.

    Wearing a mask literally to hide your identity so you can physically accost and abduct anyone under the pretense of ‘immigration authority’ with zero need for due process so there are no repercussions when you are wrong? That’s protecting your country.

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      i am willing to bet that before the year is over, there will be people who cut mouth holes out of these types of masks to make it clear that they aren’t wearing masks for public health reasons

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    Looks like a group of shady men wearing masks intended to hide their faces around an unmarked van threatening civilians with weapons to me. Call the police, maybe hyperbolize it a bit. Make them either abandon their spot or waste their time justifying their existence to the police instead of whatever bullshit they’re there to do.

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      Are you sure it’s not a group of protestors? Because then covering your face is illegal in some places now. Better call the cops to get those protestors back to the free speech zone.

      BUT THIS IS STILL A TOTALLY NORMAL AND FINE DEMOCRACY, RIGHT CONSERVATIVES?

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    that’s actually a mob of criminals. you see these dbags you need to call 911, especially if you are not an immigrant.

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    Not even remotely hyperbolic here, I 100% would assume they’re randos gang members or doing criminality attempting to kidnap then murder me, and I’d fight back accordingly. Not even a badge on a neck chain or belt clip jfc covered head to toe

    Just the same as if a mugging becomes “get into the van” no you fucking shouldn’t because their goals are now no longer your property, but now your life

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    Given what is currently happening in the US, I cannot help but ask myself: Does the police still respond when emergency calls come in reporting that several armed and masked men are dragging people into a van and kidnapping them?

    That’s a genuine question, and I don’t know the answer. But hey, I don’t know the answer to the question of how all this can be possible in a constitutional state either.

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      Turns out having a constitution isn’t enough. You have to actually follow and enforce it to be effective.

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      In this situation, it can’t be just one person. Several people need to call 911 with plate numbers and general descriptions.

      “A bunch of people in masks waiting outside the court house. I think they have guns!”

      If ICE has done their due diligence, they would have notified law enforcement that they are there in plain clothes. But methinks that these cosplayers wouldn’t think to do that.

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        If you really want to be an inconvenience, DON’T give them the plate numbers. Those will almost certainly come back to some entity or person that will clue the dispatchers in on them being government owned.

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    This looks like they just rounded up a bunch of proud boyz, put masks on them, gave them a van and told them to go harass immigrant children.

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    How does anyone know they’re ICE? what if six guys in masks showed up and threw these guys in an unmarked van and says THEY’RE ICE?