I’ve driven a zf8speed for a while and it’s pretty great, more fun to shift a bunch with the shorter ratios it makes you feel like the car is actually fast. But I work Amazon and these ford transits have a 10speed.
My issues are:
1)it always over up shifts. It never uses second gear ever. It will always go to 3rd and you’ll be in fking 4th by 12mph. So I find that it has to constantly down and upshift when I need the slightest bit of power which coming from driving manuals just feels bad. Like bro stop working so hard just wait to shift till 2.5k rpm. Im always hitting the gas then if I have to let off for one second even on a big uphill it will just upshift to like 6th or seventh. And then all the way back to 3rd one second later when I need to power up the hill again.
- this is the biggest issue imo, the final gear ratio doesn’t even reduce rpm comparitevely to my 8speed at say 80mph the revs are almost the same. Bro if your gonna add two gears make it the same ratio as the 8 with two extra so I’m at like 1k rpm on the highway. Why bother with the 10 speed if I’m still gonna be at 2.5k rpm at 80mph.
Ok random rant over, this is what happens when you drive on vehicle too often for an annoying job. You start really nitpicking everything that gets slightly on your nerves lol
Had a 2015 Evoque for a while that had the ZF-9HP. It too always started off in 2nd, leaving you 8 highway gears. 1st was only used when you went into one of the offroad modes or manually shifted it. It worked well except I hated the 4-5 shift in that transmission because it used a dog clutch and was always very rough and also had an odd ratio.
IIRC about the same time Jeep had used that same transmission in one of their small crossover chassis but it also had a taller gear in the differentials and it always started in 1st, but because the engine didn’t have enough power to spin the final ratio once it went into 9th gear it would cause something to go wrong (I forget exactly what, maybe stall the engine on the highway?), so they had thousands of them sitting on lots waiting for a software update that would permanently lock them out of ever using 9th gear.