They are very clearly lying in the audio, there’s no way that they don’t know it should’ve been a red, they made the conscious decision to not follow the rules of the sport, to the benefit of one team & the detriment of another.
The fact that this had to be leaked & wasn’t released on the VAR review show says it all, they were trying to hide it.
And yet the majority will still laugh at the idea of the PGMOL facilitating match fixing.
All these retrospective comments are useless, only make us more grieved.
Start by giving post match punishments and make these more harsh than what they would get during the matches. Give Bruno 6 matches ban for this.
was it carded during the game?
If not there should be a retrospective red-card/ban for this. I didn’t watch the game but the longer footage (which shows him miss a sliding challenge and then go back in for the elbow) is damning…
Lol, Bruno should be punished more heavily for a refereeing error than he would be if he got sent off in game.
Havertz 6 games too?
Considering the unbiased panel (rather than Arsenal fans£ decided this was 3-2 and Havert 5-0, and you want a 6 game ban for Bruno I’m sure you’ll also be arguing for a much longer ban for the much clearer red……
It’s embarrassing.
No clear protocol.
No professionalism calling each other by their nicknames.
No technical language at all.
Could you imagine a rugby referee describing something as ‘not nice’?
When they call each other by their nicknames it sounds so corny
For some reason I read this in Angry Rantman’s voice lol
Honestly if they announced they were giving all VAR roles over to bunch of professional rugby referees along with a handbook of the rules of football I would be over the fucking moon.
what’s crazy is that it’s basically one person deciding on the decision with no argument against him.
Yeah, what would happen if he’d just said “Oh, he hit him in the head”
and the glorious panel of 5 a week later voted this 3-2.
2 people didn’t vote this as a red card.
such stupidity that you’d be naive to not consider corruption.
They all agreed it was a red, 2 of them didn’t think it was a clear and obvious error for the referee to overturn his original decision
Fwiw him and Jorjinho should’ve been off. But that’s the decision the panel actually made.
Just a reminder that Tomiyasu got a yellow card for taking 8 seconds on a throw in and got a yellow for an Ayew dive which led to him being sent off against Crystal Palace
Meanwhile Bruno received one yellow all game for elbowing Jorginho in the back of the head, pushing him in the back off the ball, choked Declan Rice and shoving Fabio Vieira in the face.
Best league. Worst refs.
Smacking havertz with the ball at a throw in as well.
Just a reminder that Havertz launched himself studs up at shin height and 3 Newcastle players, including the 1 that alarmist had his career ended, got yellows for it. Officially, and unbiasedly, a much worse decision.
Then later when multiple Arsenal players surrounded the ref, including 8 of them for the correctly seated goal, no yellows.
Completely agree with the first two things about Bruno but choked Declan rice and shoving Fabio viera in the face is abit of a reach lol
Just a reminder that arsenal got a yellow for knee high studs up flying tackle at full speed while Newcastle got triple the punishment for saying the ref was wrong.
“It’s not nice”. Yep but how does that fit within the laws of the game….
"if you are not nice yellow card at most " pgmol
Well as he didn’t get anything it’s clearly between clean tackle and yellow card.
Now we know why they don’t like releasing the audio
VAR and refereeing in general could be easily improved by an automated software that simply asks the referees about the situation they are reviewing.
Literally just a screen that asks: What are you reviewing? Check all that apply.
Foul? Offside? Unsportsmanlike Conduct?
Then based on what they’re reviewing, each team member reviews one aspect.
Handball? -> Did the ball hit the arm below the shoulder (or whatever the rule they’re using is)? -> Was the arm extended from the body ? -> Was the arm in a natural position? -> Was the arm in movement? -> Blah blah blah you get the point.
At the end of the process it spits out a quick list of potential options and the refs make a decision that has been assisted by the software. And then, because we know what refs are like, it’ll ask them if they’ve checked for obvious errors. “Are you sure you reviewed the right player? Are you sure you want this onside goal to be overturned? Are there any players having their hair pulled by Cristian Romero?” etc.
Oh and train people in this process, so that the VAR team can be composed of individuals who are not mates with Anthony Taylor.
I was thinking this is meme VAR with actors, than realized its actually real leak. They sound as me and my co-worker commenting on a foul.
“Not used his arm as a weapon”… Jesus fucking christ. Does Chuck Norris have to parachute onto the pitch, sub in for Bruno, only to karate chop Jorginho in the throat for VAR to think its worthy of a red?
Where the fuck was this energy when Casemiro was sent off for slightly forcefully grabbing someones shirt collar? I don’t rememeber weaponized arms being part of the equation then.
I loved the introduction of VAR, but it just clearly shows us that these refs are just making up the rules as they go along, and no amount of tech is going to fix that
So, why can’t they retrospectively ban him? The evidence is there. Seems odd to be like “ok, that should have been a red… but his got away with it”
Bruno was gagging for a yellow the whole game so he could serve his ban for the Bournemouth game. At this point he must have thought what do I have to do to be booked 😂
This is an unsophisticated operation. We should have a mini version of a traffic control center- multiple screens, technologies and angles to quickly decipher. It is easily possible. This is a few guys interpreting things in a rushed fashion. Game has to move on yes, so every angle needs to be ready to go instead of them marking possibilities and points of failure with multiple humans hurredly
can’t give red card to Newcastle player easily though, otherwise oil money will stop.
Sometimes it’s best just to let go