I normally see the likes of Ronaldo, 2013 or Andriy Shevchenko, 2004 are rated as the most underdeserving Ballon dor winners.

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    Has to be Messi 2023. Yeah there’s a lot of questionable winners that everyone is bringing up (Ronaldo vs Ribery, Messi vs Sneidjer, Modric vs Greizman, etc) but at least you can make a solid argument for those questionable winners. It would be hard to say Modric doesn’t deserve a Balon d Or. But Messi winning this year is truly astonishing… in a bad way

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      seems like you don’t want or understand a lot of football and only look at goals and assists.

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        Seems like you didn’t watch Messi at PSG where he wasn’t even top 3 players when all of them were fit, and even dragged a couple of players performance in the gutter

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      Messi over Sneidjer 2010

      Not over Sneijder but over Milito IMO; seriously, if they gave it to Benzema for being a savage in the UCL knockouts, then Milito was that and more, even scored in the final and on the last matchday of Serie A to give Inter the league. And what does he get for that? Nothing. Not even a nomination.

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        People forget that in the past the award was yearly not seasonal.

        Sneijder got to his normal level past WC while Messi… got his casual 20+/10+ (LL/CL) in the autumn. Generally whole Inter team got to ground level.

        Messi wouldn’t receive 2023 award on 2010 rules as everyone would ignore Miami part (he would probably receive 2022 if voting was moved to cover WC etc).

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          People downvoting you forget how hard it was for Inter after Mourinho departed. Inter’s squad had a last dance, and it was left to Eto’o/Zanetti to pick up the scraps on an aging underperforming squad.

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      Pls tell me why did Zidane won in 1998, R9 won in 2002, Cannavaro in 2006 etc….they all gave great World Cup performances and won the Ballon d’Or correspondingly

      If you are talking about individual stats then Messi is in Top 5 for Goals and Assists in 2022/23 season and won Ligue 1 whilst being the Top Assister in the league

      A lot of things are going for Messi and Håland didn’t do anything in the semis and final of every tournament he played in 2022/23 season…whereas Messi scored a brace in a WC final…even Maradona couldn’t do that…

      Messi won the better trophy, has individual stats and gave world class performances in the most decisive games…nuff said

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      holistic view

      Haaland had more goals, thats literally it. Unless Haaland massively improves, he wont even be better than Messi’s shadow.

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      Let me guess, Haaland deserves it for his goals but Messi isnt top 5 because goals and assists aren’t everything? Would love to understand your logic