• iamtherealwalrus@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    You either are in favor of death penalty or you are not. There is no “but in this case I support it”.

    Wow. Lemmy is in favor of double standards today. Death penalty for the people I think deserve it, but not for those whom I don’t think deserve it?

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      They clearly explained that their reason for opposing the death penalty in the first place is the chance of error.

      I oppose the death penalty for the same reason. I have no problem executing serial killers for example. I do have a problem with accidentally executing innocent people.

      I’d be willing to say that I’m for the death penalty in the case of a serial killer as long as circumstantial evidence isn’t the determining factor. I’d like to see irrefutable evidence before they are sentenced.

      In freak cases that require absurd circumstances, I would never support the death penalty. Someone shoots the man he catches his wife with? Yeah, no. Jail is good enough. That dude isn’t just an outright danger to society. He’s just a dude who lost his shit in a moment and would have carried on living his normal life under different circumstances.

      Dude spends 10 years stalking and murdering his dates and flushing them down the toilet in pieces? Yeah, the world is better off putting him on down to sleep forever.

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        Remember that murders have been pinned on innocents for a long time. With your logic, we would have condemned Barry George to death for the murder of Jill Dando, despite it turning out he was innocent.

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          Oh I get that, and that’s why I said irrefutable evidence. I referred a little bit to a man who actually did kill his dates and flush them down the toilet. Look up Dennis Nilsen. That’s the kind of case I’m talking about.

          It’s hard to pin that kind of shit on anyone.

          I’ll research the guy you’re talking about, but I’m willing to bet he wasn’t accused of being a serial killer.

          That’s the type of person I’m ok executing. Serial killers. People who wander around without empathy slaughtering people for no reason other than the thrill of slaughtering people.

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      1 year ago

      Liberals want to murder individuals who do acts of evil. Leftists want to murder the systems that make those individuals in the first place.

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        1 year ago

        Ok so then let’s murder the lack of police accountability. By holding them accountable for their murders.

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            1 year ago

            What are you actually trying to say here?

            The sarcasm makes it unclear and I don’t want to assume you’re implying something absurd.

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              You can’t reform the storm troopers. Anything less than outright abolition is a waste of time.

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                I agree with the first statement, but don’t understand your reasoning for the second. It’s a waste of time to hold each one of these guys accountable for their crimes? This wouldn’t be the first (or last) terrible thing that took multiple steps to dismantle.

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                  It’s a waste of time to hold each one of these guys accountable for their crimes?

                  Because they won’t be. The system is set up to protect them. The system was made for them.

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                    But it wasn’t made for cops; they’re class traitors serving the people for whom it was made. And in this context, killing this guy would be holding him accountable.