tl;dr it is their choice and believe someone probably doesn’t like what I or you drive either. Be happy and drive. For me I love see an assortment of vehicles while driving and challenge myself to know more about each; its not like I will know squat about the driver.
I really do not understand this subs hate towards pickup trucks. As a whole its not likely we know all the uses someone we see during a commute or just running errands a driver has of the vehicle. To be frank, why should a sports car, super car, large suv, or similar, get a pass. What is the criteria used to automatically call out a pickup driver and give everyone else a pass? It just is personal choice and I am glad that most if not all here get to make that choice in their lives. Drive a two seat sports car or pickup is all the same to me but I suspect the pickup can actually be employed for other uses; heck I still borrow my father’s truck on occasion.
Nothing I said about does not make the claim that some people only have them as “pavement princesses” but I know more than a few owners of sports cars to include exotics who have never tracked them and lets not start on people with vehicles sold with solid off road capacity never doing more than Starbucks runs.
Yah, people are really negative about EV trucks. I don’t tow, I do carry stuff in the bed. Could I have gotten an econobox and just rented a truck, sure, maybe.
But I like having a full size pickup. It’s spacious, and I’m a big guy. You sit high up. I have enough room for the dog to be comfortable in the back or carry 4 friends. The bed is big enough to carry anything I need, and despite everyone always going on about short beds, dropping the tailgate and using straps means I’ve carried plenty of oversizes stuff.
I get they use more materials, but it’s better than the gas truck I used to drive. I have solar panels and cheap electricity, so it’s not like I’m wasting electricity that isn’t just abundantly available via the sun. People lose sight of different use cases. I live in a smaller city, less than 50k people. The Lightning fits just fine in parking spots, I have never had an issue with pedestrians because I keep it slow and my head on a swivel in parking lots. It just feels like so much of the hate is misplaced, so what if a truck is a pavement princess. Most vehicles are, it’s rare to truly find dirt roads only these days though I still drive them time to time. People like trucks, having electric options is good. If those against them had an opportunity to ride along in the Lightning I think they’d see some of the positives.
The truck being a pavement princess isn’t so much a problem itself. It’s the massive amount of external damage pick up trucks (and large suv) cause due to their design and appeal. (The appeal is in part because the big 3 can’t make cars, so they push trucks down consumers throat).
We had been trending downwards in vehicle fatality but we are now trending upwards and a large part of that are large trucks and SUVs designed with high hoods that hit pedestrians in the chest and horrible visibility that causes frontovers. We also have a big culture of excess where 1 in 4 truck owners add a lift and large tires so they can now hit pedestrians in the head instead of the chest.
Large trucks and SUVs also cause an arm race, since they are highly crash incompatible with smaller cars, making drivers who prefer more efficient compact vehicles choose larger cars than they would have.
You’re a responsible driver who takes into the consideration of the vehicle you drive. The general public does not, and we can do a lot to reduce motor vehicle fatalities by requiring crash capability and pedestrian safety. We can design a large cabin, with excellent visibility and, easy ingress and egress, and good utility. All those things aren’t mutually exclusive.
bs hate towards pickup trucks. As a whole its not likely we know all the uses someone we see during a commute or just running errands a driver has of the vehicle. To be frank, why should a s
People love to inveigh against other people’s choices, as though you’re infringing on their rights by buying something that works for your lifestyle. Lucid missed the mark by not coming up with a sufficiently unique product offering, now perhaps it’s trying to remedy that. That’s how capitalism works. If people want to spend money on it, someone will probably produce it.
Having said that, I think Lucid really screwed the pooch by focusing solely on range and luxury as a selling attribute. There’s likely a huge market for electrification of commercial fleet vehicles, like trucks and vans, but the Lucid brand wouldn’t translate well into that market. They would need to partner with an existing manufacturer to make entry into that market. Perhaps purchasing rolling stock from China and electrifying it would be the way to go.
Yeah you can’t blame the consumers, they’re also victims. It’s the regulators that have spent decades falling down on the job by exempting trucks from passenger car emissions regulations, never regulating headlight height or over-the-hood visibility, and so on. The carmakers saw an opportunity to tap into 100 million susceptible male egos to make a shitton of money and you can’t really blame them for that either, it’s the natural course of capitalism to extract all possible profit regardless of everything else.
There it is, people finally stop pretending that pickup truck are used for hauling things or doing work.
pavement princesses
tl;dr it is their choice and believe someone probably doesn’t like what I or you drive either. Be happy and drive. For me I love see an assortment of vehicles while driving and challenge myself to know more about each; its not like I will know squat about the driver.
I really do not understand this subs hate towards pickup trucks. As a whole its not likely we know all the uses someone we see during a commute or just running errands a driver has of the vehicle. To be frank, why should a sports car, super car, large suv, or similar, get a pass. What is the criteria used to automatically call out a pickup driver and give everyone else a pass? It just is personal choice and I am glad that most if not all here get to make that choice in their lives. Drive a two seat sports car or pickup is all the same to me but I suspect the pickup can actually be employed for other uses; heck I still borrow my father’s truck on occasion.
Nothing I said about does not make the claim that some people only have them as “pavement princesses” but I know more than a few owners of sports cars to include exotics who have never tracked them and lets not start on people with vehicles sold with solid off road capacity never doing more than Starbucks runs.
Yah, people are really negative about EV trucks. I don’t tow, I do carry stuff in the bed. Could I have gotten an econobox and just rented a truck, sure, maybe.
But I like having a full size pickup. It’s spacious, and I’m a big guy. You sit high up. I have enough room for the dog to be comfortable in the back or carry 4 friends. The bed is big enough to carry anything I need, and despite everyone always going on about short beds, dropping the tailgate and using straps means I’ve carried plenty of oversizes stuff.
I get they use more materials, but it’s better than the gas truck I used to drive. I have solar panels and cheap electricity, so it’s not like I’m wasting electricity that isn’t just abundantly available via the sun. People lose sight of different use cases. I live in a smaller city, less than 50k people. The Lightning fits just fine in parking spots, I have never had an issue with pedestrians because I keep it slow and my head on a swivel in parking lots. It just feels like so much of the hate is misplaced, so what if a truck is a pavement princess. Most vehicles are, it’s rare to truly find dirt roads only these days though I still drive them time to time. People like trucks, having electric options is good. If those against them had an opportunity to ride along in the Lightning I think they’d see some of the positives.
The truck being a pavement princess isn’t so much a problem itself. It’s the massive amount of external damage pick up trucks (and large suv) cause due to their design and appeal. (The appeal is in part because the big 3 can’t make cars, so they push trucks down consumers throat).
We had been trending downwards in vehicle fatality but we are now trending upwards and a large part of that are large trucks and SUVs designed with high hoods that hit pedestrians in the chest and horrible visibility that causes frontovers. We also have a big culture of excess where 1 in 4 truck owners add a lift and large tires so they can now hit pedestrians in the head instead of the chest.
Large trucks and SUVs also cause an arm race, since they are highly crash incompatible with smaller cars, making drivers who prefer more efficient compact vehicles choose larger cars than they would have.
You’re a responsible driver who takes into the consideration of the vehicle you drive. The general public does not, and we can do a lot to reduce motor vehicle fatalities by requiring crash capability and pedestrian safety. We can design a large cabin, with excellent visibility and, easy ingress and egress, and good utility. All those things aren’t mutually exclusive.
Unless you only drive within your own private property, people needs to learn that that their vehicle type they pock effects others.
Especially big heavy ev. Crash compatibility is a thing.
People love to inveigh against other people’s choices, as though you’re infringing on their rights by buying something that works for your lifestyle. Lucid missed the mark by not coming up with a sufficiently unique product offering, now perhaps it’s trying to remedy that. That’s how capitalism works. If people want to spend money on it, someone will probably produce it.
Having said that, I think Lucid really screwed the pooch by focusing solely on range and luxury as a selling attribute. There’s likely a huge market for electrification of commercial fleet vehicles, like trucks and vans, but the Lucid brand wouldn’t translate well into that market. They would need to partner with an existing manufacturer to make entry into that market. Perhaps purchasing rolling stock from China and electrifying it would be the way to go.
Yeah you can’t blame the consumers, they’re also victims. It’s the regulators that have spent decades falling down on the job by exempting trucks from passenger car emissions regulations, never regulating headlight height or over-the-hood visibility, and so on. The carmakers saw an opportunity to tap into 100 million susceptible male egos to make a shitton of money and you can’t really blame them for that either, it’s the natural course of capitalism to extract all possible profit regardless of everything else.