Hello. I’ll keep it simple

I am planning to do moderate gaming and moderate - heavy productivity workload especially with rendering, simultaneously streaming, and (video) editing. As such, I am eyeing the 7950x3d and have a few questions about it as all this talk about setting it up honestly seems daunting VS the simplicity of (from what I heard and understand) the one-and-done setup with the 7800x3d.
For the 7950x3d

  1. Do I *NEED* process lasso for it?
  2. Would just buying the CPU, installing it, and setting windows to high-performance work?
  3. If I just follow these steps by AMD themselves https://community.amd.com/t5/gaming/how-to-set-up-your-system-with-a-new-amd-ryzen-9-7950x3d-or/ba-p/589464, would that suffice?
  4. Just confirming this as I am honestly confused with the amount of information around. So if I game on my first monitor using the 8 cores of the 1st CCD, I can run a productivity process as well with the other cores as needed and it would NOT be parked? This is mostly what I’ll be doing
  5. For setting my expectations as well, for current 7950x3d users, what has been your overall experience with this CPU? Has it been a slog to setup? What issues did you guys face? What should I prepare myself to face if ever?
    For the 7800x3d
  6. Would the 7800x3d be enough for both gaming and productivity? Especially with my question 4 for the 7950x3d

If it helps with answering the questions, I have the 7900XTX with 32gb of 6000mhz cl30 Ram

Thank you!

  • TheRealBurritoJ@alien.topBEnglish
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    1 year ago
    1. You don’t necessarily need to worry about affinity, but if you want to get X3D performance in every game then yes some sort of affinity software is required. Not all games work with gamebar, even manually adding them to the game detection, and some games that do will still have issues because it turns off the parking if the load on CCD0 gets too high.

    I personally use CapframeX for affinity as process lasso causes some games to crash (like BG3).

    1. High performance mode disables core parking, which breaks the software. You need to use balanced.

    2. The built in AMD solution is only really sufficient if you don’t want to use intensive software while gaming, and it won’t work for all games even then.

    3. If you want to be using the extra 8 cores for productivity while gaming, you’ll need to use affinity instead of gamebar. Parked cores run no code, and running multithreaded workloads while gaming will immediately trigger the “disable parking if load is high” rule and allow the game to leave the VCache die which hurts performance. If your workload is gaming plus MT in the background, you will need to use affinity controls 100% of the time.

    4. It’s an amazing CPU, I really love it. It is flawed though, the gamebar solution is incredibly half-arsed from AMD. I don’t think they could’ve gone for a lower effort, more fragile method than just “when gamebar says a game is open, turn off half the cores”. I’m fine with manually doing affinity because I honestly enjoy the tinkering, it’s fun to benchmark whether games (and indeed other applications) prefer clocks or cache. When using affinity, it’s the best CPU in the world for mixed gaming/productivity.

    5. For your workloads, the 7950X3D makes more sense. It’s a monstrous CPU for MT, and if you get benefit from more MT I wouldn’t settle for the 7800X3D.

    One other thing, I’d recommend getting 64GB now if you can afford it. 4 dimm support is atrocious, so if you ever need to upgrade ram you’ll want to instead take out the 32GB and put in 2x32GB. The price jump to 64GB is relatively pretty small.

    • ATTAFWRD@alien.topBEnglish
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      1 year ago

      It is flawed though, the gamebar solution is incredibly half-arsed from AMD.

      Ace tier comment. I second this. This is why I get 7800X3D instead. What a shame AMD.