• Nero_Darkstar@alien.topB
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    10 months ago

    VAR has removed accountability from the refs and linesmen. They might see something but don’t have to call it as they know VAR will check it. But VAR thinks that the ref has seen it and not called it so they rarely intervene.

    Ita also worth noting that the ONLY penalty awarded by a ref that VAR has overturned this season is Havertz vs Man Utd. Much more dubious ones have been left.

    Until they copy and paste the Rugby Union model (ref and VAR specialist teams constantly working together not former refs keeping their mates out of the shit) and the onfield ref clearly asks what he wants checking, it’s not going to work because subjectivity is there from the start.

    Linesmen need to revert to having to flag for fouls and offside checks and report everything they see to the ref.

    Oh, and stop the bribery from UAE/Saudi leagues is probably a good start. At minimum, declare the conflict of interest like normal organisations.

    • Legal-Care9822@alien.topB
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      10 months ago

      I watched the rugby wc final (1 of maybe 3 rugby matches I watched in my life) and I was honestly blown away by how the VAR works. A little jealous also.

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        10 months ago

        It seems like refereeing culture in rugby is superior in just about every respect to refereeing culture in football. Rugby players have a near-absolute respect for the ref’s calls, while football players dissimulate, shout abuse and physically intimidate referees in just about every game.

        I put this down to rugby having such strong roots in amateur sport, where football, being professional, made star players and managers so powerful that they gained a kind of impunity and began to pressure refs simply because they could and it served them.

        What stops the PGMOL or FIFA referees worldwide from straight-up carding players for disrespect, or what makes their organisations so spineless and shit, though, I just don’t know.

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          10 months ago

          I somewhat think there’s a higher degree of respect on the rugby field with the ref and other players because it’s on the edge of violence. If there was no respect then it would get out of hand very quickly. It’s necessary for the game to work.