For the record, Toyota and Lexus HQ employee vehicles and on-site engineers and mechanics only change the synthetic oil every 10k miles except for the high performance engines (RCF, LC500, etc.). Follow the manufacturer instructions as you’ll be fine. If you drive in extreme conditions or operate the vehicle in high stress situations (off-roading, racing, etc.), you’ll need to change it more frequently than the manufacturer recommendation.
Going to question this, as Toyota HQ happens to be in N. Texas. Who owns these vehicles in question, and how long are these kept in private hands. A lot of relevant information not offerred in this comment.
We get the occasional dust storm, local ambient temperatures well over 115F, and short trip with condensing conditions in the 30’s and lower.
My car’s never see more than 4500-5500 miles between changes, and live on Mobile 1
Some employees lease them, others buy them, and most of the people who loves cars do a combination of both. It’s hard to know for sure but I would bet that most employees would lease.
10k mile oil changes will get your car to 120k-150k miles, but if you’re interested in keeping your car to 200k-300k miles then you must do 5k mile oil change intervals. The 10k mile oil change will make the engine last longer than the warranty period and also “lower” the yearly ownership cost, which is all Toyota cares about.
These situations you bring up break down the oil in an expedited manner due to the high heat and increased shearing of the oil from high speeds. Changing it more often is very necessary.
For the record, Toyota’s maintenance schedule also assumes that you use OEM oil from the dealer. Most motor oil additives begin breaking down at 5k/6mo. So, while Toyota HQ might have easy access to OEM grade oils, the average American consumer does not. That’s why you change it at 5k/6mo. If you don’t want to be burning oil by 100k, change your oil at 5k, mmkay?
Good point. I’ve only ever serviced my modern cars at the dealer. OEM products should always be used if financially feasible. I only take my non Toy/Lex classic cars to non dealers since GM dealers won’t service a car that’s 15 years old or more. Meanwhile, I took my 1993 Previa to multiple dealers and never batted an eye.
In my country Toyota headquarters actually recommend oil changes every 5k miles, and most dealers offers 200k miles / 10 year engine warranty with the condition that oil changes are done every 5k miles.
Even The Car Care Nut guy Toyota Certified master technician don’t recommend going with 10k miles for longevity purposes.
Sure, but that is designed to get you through the manufacturer’s warranty, you are shit out of luck once you hit 120k or 60k, not sure what their drivetrain warranty is.
You want to take your car to 300k plus, you need to do your oil changes earlier than 10K.
For what it’s worth, while I agree with you, you should look up Toyotas definition of of extreme conditions. It definitely wasn’t what I thought it was.
For the record, Toyota and Lexus HQ employee vehicles and on-site engineers and mechanics only change the synthetic oil every 10k miles except for the high performance engines (RCF, LC500, etc.). Follow the manufacturer instructions as you’ll be fine. If you drive in extreme conditions or operate the vehicle in high stress situations (off-roading, racing, etc.), you’ll need to change it more frequently than the manufacturer recommendation.
Going to question this, as Toyota HQ happens to be in N. Texas. Who owns these vehicles in question, and how long are these kept in private hands. A lot of relevant information not offerred in this comment.
We get the occasional dust storm, local ambient temperatures well over 115F, and short trip with condensing conditions in the 30’s and lower.
My car’s never see more than 4500-5500 miles between changes, and live on Mobile 1
Some employees lease them, others buy them, and most of the people who loves cars do a combination of both. It’s hard to know for sure but I would bet that most employees would lease.
Yep, I have the lease program benefit also. Every 10k miles.
But her in the states we have fake synthetic blend
10k mile oil changes will get your car to 120k-150k miles, but if you’re interested in keeping your car to 200k-300k miles then you must do 5k mile oil change intervals. The 10k mile oil change will make the engine last longer than the warranty period and also “lower” the yearly ownership cost, which is all Toyota cares about.
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I’m at 145k with 10k oil changes on my 2017 corolla. I hope it lasts me another 50k!
These situations you bring up break down the oil in an expedited manner due to the high heat and increased shearing of the oil from high speeds. Changing it more often is very necessary.
For the record, Toyota’s maintenance schedule also assumes that you use OEM oil from the dealer. Most motor oil additives begin breaking down at 5k/6mo. So, while Toyota HQ might have easy access to OEM grade oils, the average American consumer does not. That’s why you change it at 5k/6mo. If you don’t want to be burning oil by 100k, change your oil at 5k, mmkay?
Good point. I’ve only ever serviced my modern cars at the dealer. OEM products should always be used if financially feasible. I only take my non Toy/Lex classic cars to non dealers since GM dealers won’t service a car that’s 15 years old or more. Meanwhile, I took my 1993 Previa to multiple dealers and never batted an eye.
In my country Toyota headquarters actually recommend oil changes every 5k miles, and most dealers offers 200k miles / 10 year engine warranty with the condition that oil changes are done every 5k miles.
Even The Car Care Nut guy Toyota Certified master technician don’t recommend going with 10k miles for longevity purposes.
Sure, but that is designed to get you through the manufacturer’s warranty, you are shit out of luck once you hit 120k or 60k, not sure what their drivetrain warranty is.
You want to take your car to 300k plus, you need to do your oil changes earlier than 10K.
‘extreme conditions’ also include short trips in the cold… Which is a lot of people in cold climates in the winter.
Is there any harm in changing it early?
I change mine when the light comes on… is this not what everyone does?
For what it’s worth, while I agree with you, you should look up Toyotas definition of of extreme conditions. It definitely wasn’t what I thought it was.
I’ll change mine every 5k miles, thanks.