• Hacksaw@lemmy.ca
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    13 days ago

    I think it’s important to downvote them and even make them feel unwelcome. You can’t let Nazis and white supremacists in your communities because any community that doesn’t kick out Nazis will eventually find itself overrun by Nazis fleeing communities that kick them out.

    You don’t need to argue or make a fuss, but make sure to downvote anyone who doesn’t believe all people are born equal and that people have a right to choose what to do and who to love.

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      People downvote me all the time and I just think “well they’re wrong, I’ve laid out my argument and they can’t refute it”. So I imagine Nazis feel the same way when you downvote them.

      Edit: case in point

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          That’s… not what they are saying. They are critiquing the strategy. If nazzis and I agree 1+1 makes 2 that doesn’t mean we’re all Nazzis.

          I don’t understand why so many struggle with addressing the message and are so eager to shoot the messenger. It’s weird but really common on Lemmy.

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    I’m a centrist. Am I allowed anywhere in this cruel world?

    Edit- What’s the downvotes for?

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      Balancing on the knife’s edge is always a dangerous act.

      Share your thoughts, be cordial, question politely, answer in kind.

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        I always answer politely unless the other person fcs around

        Still you’ll targetted everywhere id you’re a centrist. Just look at the down votes😂

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        When I say I’m a centrist that means for some stuff I’m liberal and for other I’m conservative

        Centrist isn’t someone who is not into politics. They classify themselves as “non politicals”

        You got the difference?

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            I’m from india so I can tell my perspective only for my country

            I want

            1. the affirmative actions to be removed,
            2. laws to be made gender neutral,
            3. freebies to be removed (which is given to the uneducated low earning people because they are the votebank),
            4. to increase the funds in higher education govt institutions,
            5. DEI should be removed from job hirings,
            6. and there should be a test for civic sense for the ones who are applying for passport in india

            Edit - Damn!! People are even downvoting this

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              As I understand you, you’re in favor of abolishing quotas for SC/ST persons, for example. In view of the large and rising income inequality and wealth inequality across the Indian population (stats), would you be open to an ambitious ‘caste-blind’ social security system, financed by taxing the rich? Or to income-based educational support programs?

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                What’s caste blind social security system?

                There should income based affirmative actions, for the ones who comes in BPL (below poverty line) list and for the specially abled people

                If more than half a century of affirmative actions wasn’t able to give jobs to certain communities, then it’s a skill issue not a society issue

                Casteism doesn’t exists except in some villages, left extremists would say otherwise

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                  What’s caste blind social security system?

                  I am thinking of a social security system (or welfare system, or redistribution scheme, or tax scheme) which does not take caste into consideration, but only factors such as income, wealth, parental income and wealth, illnesses and disabilities, …

                  In Europe and other Western countries, discontent about immigrants (and their descendants) is on the rise because people who struggle give them the blame for their own hardships, and a lot of politicians gain power by appealing to these sentiments, yet the policies that they then enact just make the rich richer and the poor even poorer.

                  Could something analogous be going on in India (with the lower castes in the place of immigrants), in that the ultra-rich people manage to avoid paying taxes commensurate to their wealth by making public policy debate focus on DEI or affirmative action programs?

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              I have bad news for you brown guy, you are a middle ground between conservatives and fascists. Almost all of your takes are aggressive and repressive. People don’t work like that, we are all different and we should account for all diversity. You think “uneducated low earning people” should not get free shit but because they can be bribed. So you understand that desperate people would do anything, so why not help them? Why are they desperate? You remove the freebies but you keep the poverty.

              You can step into fascism when you realise that “removing DEI” it’s a lot of bureaucracy and wasted time. Bullets are much cheaper.

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                I know it’s a mixed side. But I’m definitely not a fascist nor do I support fascism

                So you understand that desperate people would do anything, so why not help them?

                I don’t know if you don’t understand the situation but in india shit is complex. There have been interviews of people living in slums, they say they are making more children to get a little more money from the govt (from the scheme which was made for educational purposes of lower income households), some of them are regularly caught to be begging instead of doing some work (specially the ones who are fully fit and fine).

                You know why it’s like that? Because most of them got the bread and circus and they don’t want anything more.

                The govt doesn’t even care about the poor and handicapped people tbh, because they get less seats from the affirmative actions. The so called oppressed groups “STs/SCs” get it.

                Recently I gave an exam, the cutoff for general category is 94%ile but for ST it is 49%ile. Just look at the difference

                That’s why affirmative actions should be income based only for the ones who are in the BPL (below poverty line) list

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                  I have some very superficial knowledge of Indian system casts etc… but regardless, people are people, fundamentally they act the same.

                  most of them got the bread and circus and they don’t want anything more.

                  Let’s start from here: they don’t want anything else. Are you sure? Would you believe in a system where you are confined in your cast (or for any other countries, general poverty), where you need to slave just to survive? If you live in a slum, yes your first issue is bread, second issue is bread tomorrow. You are not drinking grass smoothies dreaming a lambo. Why? Because you know, you see it everyday, that no matter what you do the probability are against you.

                  So why anyone living in a slum would even try to game the system? “Nobody expects me to make it… why not make as many kids as possible and get the money, at least my first son will survive. “

                  We need to stop thinking about people in terms of good vs. evil. We are surviving machines, we do what profit us and make us last long, good or bad doesn’t matter. Governments should account for that and give everyone the same OPPORTUNITIES and bridge differences with empathy and understanding.

                  Talk to homeless people, listen to their stories. You will realise it’s an unlucky, unsupported, discarded version of you.

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                I didn’t know my caste until I was 16 because in cities that shit doesn’t exist

                I’m kayastha. The community which never followed caste system in the 1900s… but now I have face affirmative actions because my ancestors were rich in general and had an history of being jamindars (land owners)

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                  Do you think the fact that you were unaware of your caste might be an indicator of privilege? Do you think your Dalit neighbors (if you have any) grew up ignorant of their caste?

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          It means your convictions are meaningless & you will become a tool of the Fascists eventually.