IIRC The UN security council’s permanent members operate on an “all or nothing” basis, so if you can’t get the US, UK, France, China, and Russia to all agree you can’t do anything.
It’s UN Security Council sanctions. They are not lifting existing sanctions, just not implementing new sanctions on the DPRK.
In Russia, there are two versions about why Russia participated in the sanctioning of DPRK.
First, is that Russia wanted to appease the West so they went along with the sanctions.
Second, is that China wanted the DPRK to stop developing its nuclear weapons (remember the Chinese leadership has a lot of libs who love America at one point, especially before Trump), but the DPRK didn’t listen (good decision, considering what happened to Libya) so China decided to punish DPRK from the UNSC as a warning, and dragging Russia to go along with it.
It is worth noting that even as China went along with sanctions, they were arguing for a gentler approach and I think successfully derailed a couple of escalation attempts by the US. They were probably scared of being pushed away from western Bloc countries if they sided too hard with the DPRK, however unjust that treatment of True Korea is.
They were not exactly friendly until the last few years. China was looking to deepen its economic ties with the US and EU, and saw North Korea’s nuclear development as a nuisance to their path towards prosperity. You have to understand that, at least from 2005-2015, China has a lot of pro-Western libs who love America. I cannot emphasize enough how many of my friends saw capitalism as the way forward even as late as 5 years ago.
Of course, Trump gave China the biggest wake up call they could ever hope for, and things have never been the same since.
China has done some shady things when it comes to foreign policy. It’s actually one of the main critiques I have of china, and while the foreign policy they conduct is far better than pre-Xi, is still far too conformist and ‘pragmatic’ for my liking, especially considering it’ll benefit more nation’s if china becomes more assertive.
From giving weapons to the Philippines government to fight Filipino revolutionaries, to its participation in the Nepalese civil war in the favour of the government, instead of the communists. Still I’m hopeful china will correct this mistake soon.
Yeah, I think that China wasn’t very pleased with the DPRK conducting nuclear tests and potentially harming Chinese soil and people. This isn’t an issue anymore, though.
China’s stated reason for the sanctions is a policy of a de-nuclearized Korean peninsula. In theory, if the DPRK got nuclear weapons without Chinese opposition, there’s nothing China can then say if the ROK pursued nuclear weapons in response.
Why exactly was China sanctioning the DPRK?
Also, good for them. The DPRK is a country of enormous potential ideology wise, people wise and resources wise.
I don’t recall the exact details as I believe it was the usual UN demands about DPRK’s missile launches, but basically China went along with a round of security council sanctions adopted in 2017, which meant that petroleum exports become more restricted and thousands of people from DPRK who were working in China had to go home and a bunch of joint ventures were forced to shut down as well. However, in 2022, China and Russia vetoed a new round of US-sponsored UN sanctions on DPRK, and recommended lifting some of the earlier sanctions, as they felt the US had failed to engage in its end of diplomacy with DPRK, and therefore the earlier sanctions should be reduced and no further ones should be imposed.
why haven’t they vetoed the USs veto of lifting sanctions on cuba that everyone votes for every year for the last 40 years or whatever?
IIRC The UN security council’s permanent members operate on an “all or nothing” basis, so if you can’t get the US, UK, France, China, and Russia to all agree you can’t do anything.
Unfortunately I don’t know enough about that to speak on it
It’s UN Security Council sanctions. They are not lifting existing sanctions, just not implementing new sanctions on the DPRK.
In Russia, there are two versions about why Russia participated in the sanctioning of DPRK.
First, is that Russia wanted to appease the West so they went along with the sanctions.
Second, is that China wanted the DPRK to stop developing its nuclear weapons (remember the Chinese leadership has a lot of libs who love America at one point, especially before Trump), but the DPRK didn’t listen (good decision, considering what happened to Libya) so China decided to punish DPRK from the UNSC as a warning, and dragging Russia to go along with it.
Both versions are not mutually exclusive.
It is worth noting that even as China went along with sanctions, they were arguing for a gentler approach and I think successfully derailed a couple of escalation attempts by the US. They were probably scared of being pushed away from western Bloc countries if they sided too hard with the DPRK, however unjust that treatment of True Korea is.
Even still, kinda odd that China would follow the sanctions on a neighboring country that is friendly to them. Glad to hear that things are changing
They were not exactly friendly until the last few years. China was looking to deepen its economic ties with the US and EU, and saw North Korea’s nuclear development as a nuisance to their path towards prosperity. You have to understand that, at least from 2005-2015, China has a lot of pro-Western libs who love America. I cannot emphasize enough how many of my friends saw capitalism as the way forward even as late as 5 years ago.
Of course, Trump gave China the biggest wake up call they could ever hope for, and things have never been the same since.
Great comment, explains a lot, I’ll look more into it
So are less people libs now in China? Are the libs still a threat to take over power?
Xi’s presidency paired with the clear terminal decline state of Western countries have made liberalism in China a marginal position.
China has done some shady things when it comes to foreign policy. It’s actually one of the main critiques I have of china, and while the foreign policy they conduct is far better than pre-Xi, is still far too conformist and ‘pragmatic’ for my liking, especially considering it’ll benefit more nation’s if china becomes more assertive.
From giving weapons to the Philippines government to fight Filipino revolutionaries, to its participation in the Nepalese civil war in the favour of the government, instead of the communists. Still I’m hopeful china will correct this mistake soon.
Yeah, I think that China wasn’t very pleased with the DPRK conducting nuclear tests and potentially harming Chinese soil and people. This isn’t an issue anymore, though.
China and Russia are on the security council, and could have vetoed them
Misleading, see the other comments.
It was the Security Council sanctioning
China’s stated reason for the sanctions is a policy of a de-nuclearized Korean peninsula. In theory, if the DPRK got nuclear weapons without Chinese opposition, there’s nothing China can then say if the ROK pursued nuclear weapons in response.