• SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    That’s the point of my concluding paragraph. I am acknowledging that fallacy. So I ask, if freedom is an actual component to socialism, communism, or anarchism, then is the USSR actually a communist state? I can easily argue North Korea isn’t. China and Russia aren’t socialist at all. Russia is an oligopoly and China is just state capitalism.

    So what is “true socialism”? I don’t think we can ever achieve. We can’t have a “perfect” society, but I do think we can get close enough having workers been more in control of their labor, be more democratic, and not live in an authoritarian state. We may not 100% be able to live in a Star Trek universe but I think we can get quite close.

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      10 months ago

      Sure, here are some examples:

      As you may imagine, they aren’t finding their way to exist easy. But they sure are having success in learning how to create a horizontal society.

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        10 months ago

        See how these people aren’t even engaging you here? That’s because you’re not trying hard enough.

        You can do better my troll friend. I believe in you