Nice try Mikel.
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our squads still not fully padded out
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we weren’t humbled by BD at all, we took the game to them and if Joe’s header went in it would have been 1-1
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It’s a group of death. Only 4 in our squad has CL experience. And we have more points than Man Utd with their easier opposition (BM excluded)
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Burn falling on his back, Murphy on his shoulder, these aren’t caused by intensity. This happens
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No idea why this is downvoted 😂. Chelsea have been plagued with injuries and no-one has questioned it.
Barnes, Burn, Murphy and Anderson were all freak injuries that can happen anytime and not related to playing time. Tonali is also non football related. Targett’s injury he’d played 1 minute and barely played all season. Basically that leaves Isak, Wilson and Botman who are both victims of “intensity”, which in itself doesn’t account for the fact that more games is more chance of pickkng up knocks. Willock was injured last season so doesn’t count. Joelinton and Longstaff both picked up small injuries early in the season before the multiple game weeks.So it is indeed lazy to insinuate that intensity and number of games has resulted in huge injury list.
People acknowledge Chelsea’s injury situation all the time
Yes, but they aren’t blaming intensity is my point. Its just accepted as a bad run, which is what it is.
Lots of injuries.
Bro cmon, every top team struggles with injuries.
Once a a weekend yes. If you want do it twice a week you probably need a bigger squad in order to rotate.
Leeds during their Bielsa-ball days might be a good comparison. The first season went well but the burnout crept in eventually.
Agreed they just looked tired this game
They will turn into us with not rotating much and having a tonne of games more than other teams we were the same last season
We did it last season and finished 4th and got to a cup final. We are suffering injuries this season, but that’s not because of our tempo. Plenty of successful teams have played at this tempo, in fact it’s where we/Howe drew inspiration from.
Liverpool has years of really bad some might say unlucky injury crisis, it was due to how intense the style of playing was. Due to other injuries unrelated to the style of play happening, it will put a lot more pressure on the players that are fit making it unsustainable.
Are any of the injuries really attributable to that?
Well the rules have been changed this year and every match is going longer. Some teams, it will suit less but I can’t see why anyone would expect fewer injuries as a result.
Lots of teams are struggling with injuries and ironically enough, Newcastles injury list isn’t that different in length to when Steve Bruce was in charge while constantly on holiday there.
I think the main reason for longer games is 15 minutes of VAR checks. Players are standing around and getting a break.
Newcastle fan here. Tbf Howe toned down the pressing and now gets into a low-ish block against certain teams like they did against Arsenal. It’s how many times we lose possession that tires out our players from having to chase it back.
It’s hard work throwing yourself to the ground several times per game
So odd how salty Liverpool fans are about Newcastle considering you have literally downright humiliated us twice in the past two seasons and haven’t lost to us in almost 7 years. At least Arsenal have taken a few Ls to get so bitter about us. Your lot beat us no matter the circumstances and yet we still have you absolutely foaming. Lol.
Not bitter, more of an attempt at humour. Personally, I hate the teams who play anti-football - Atletico under Simeone is at the top of that list
WTF are you yapping about mate? There’s no fucking anti-football being played by NUFC. Trust me, we had 10+ years of anti-football, we know what it looks like. Right now, the closest comparable team in terms of how they play is Liverpool.
A lot of the injuries are from impact. Tonali is banned and not injured. He has 10 months to keep fit and integrate.
Problem is we’re playing more games so there are more chances for injuries to occur.
Targett and Wilson are the only muscle injuries. Targett hasn’t featured much and Wilson was injury-prone during Bruceball.
We qualified for the Champions League several seasons too early without the infrastructure in place to cope. Hopefully it frees up funds within our limotFFP budget to introduce more squad members.
I reckon Minteh is involved in the team next season, possibly Kuol if he makes progress. Even just one of them would really ease the burden on Gordon, Barnes, Miggy and Murphy.
I’d be surprised if Kuol ever makes 10 first team appearances for us.
He’s been hopping between the bench and starting in the 16th (of 18) placed Eredivisie team, last year he could barely even get off the bench in the Scottish league.
I hope I’m proven wrong but I don’t see him making the step between his current performances and a team that wants CL football every year within the time that he’ll get.
A lot of the injury’s are apparently weird and generally unrelated to the intensity. Burn and Anderson both hurt their backs - burn by falling around 16ft over his shoelaces. Murphy dislocated his shoulder which seems pretty unrelated. Barnes I think broke his toe? Or something toe related which again, isn’t to do with playstyle. A lot of the injuries just seem really unlucky.
Seriously, all of the injuries bar maybe Isak seem unrelated to me. We’ve gotten really unlucky so far this year. I love the intensity tbh.
Hasn’t Liverpool basically already answered that question? They’ve toned it down a bit recently but they were on a ~18 month cycle of playing super intense football before burning out and accumulating a load of injuries for a while.
I don’t think they’ve hit that point yet but obviously at some point you do have to be able to take the foot off the pedal a bit if you’re playing 2 games a week as the norm.
Lack of real investment over 14 years can’t be overturned in two years, with the ffp limits we can’t do what city, chelsea and United do and spaff money on players, this is the real issue for me, the playing style is sustainable we just have financial hurdles to navigate to bring the squad depth up, which sounds ridiculous I know but I’m grateful in another way as if the pif sold us the new owners can’t chase the superstars and rack up billions of pounds of debt and ruin us thanks to the ffp rules
I don’t think many of our injuries can be put down to fatigue. Burn fell awkwardly on his back, Murphy also had a bad fall and dislocated his shoulder, Barnes had a very unusual impact injury on his toe. Tonali is suspended. Wilson had had hamstring issues for years before Howe came. Matt Target wasn’t getting any game time and got injured within 2 minutes of his first start, so you can’t put his injury down to being overworked either. Botman also had an impact injury on his knee. I think the only one that could maybe fall under play style is Isak as it’s a muscle injury and he leads our line with the pressing. Our luck has been rotten and it is what it is.