We attract the best players and managers from around the world but don’t do the same for refs. Then we wonder why the officiating is much worse than the quality of players and coaches. The quality of the playing would be way worse without foreigners and quality of refereeing would improve with foreigners.

Agree or disagree?

  • seshtown@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Gillett wasn’t even up to par in the A-League, how the fuck did he get a gig in England?

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    11 months ago

    Each league thinks they have the worst referees, having foreign referees isn’t a bad idea but it’s not going to be a band aid fix, It’ll likely be an expensive solution to a minor upgrade.

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    11 months ago

    Why don’t you pull in some Americans, you’re already a bigger sport here than baseball. You can say whatever you want about our culture in this sport, but the more involved we get the better it is for EPL and clubs

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    11 months ago

    As someone that officiated once upon a time, foreign referees make no difference.

    1. In other nations, the amount of bitching and moaning about referees is no different. They literally have a referee bribing case going on in Spain. MLS fans moan and groan about the standard of refereeing the same as the PL, Liga MX fans go on and on about corrupt officials. It’s the same nonsense everywhere. Hell I’ve been accused many times of being bribed or biased… Against teams I’ve never seen before in my life.

    2. Logistics. Some referees at the top level still work normal jobs so getting referees to travel internationally on a regular basis is not going to be popular with referees.

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      11 months ago

      This guy referees ⬆️

      Premier League referees also don’t make that much money to where it would be worth it to pack up everything and move overseas

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    11 months ago

    What I don’t get is why the roster of referees hardly refreshes, you have incompetent referees like Taylor, Atwell, etc. reffing for donkeys years

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    11 months ago

    I think I’ve mentioned this before somewhere on this sub but I think across Europe all leagues would benefit from peer reviews… so say as an example a panel of German officials review a weekend of PL football and give their impartial advice on how they would have dealt with decisions etc and vice versa… English officials do similar in Germany.

    Transparency among the reffing organisations, faith that PGMOL aren’t biased/on the take… And surely getting the insights from a different league has to be beneficial in improving how games are officiated

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    11 months ago

    There’s an issue with getting former players (of any level) involved with football. Refs seem to be kids who weren’t ever any good at football but liked football.

    We need ex pros either being refs or being part of the VAR system to provide an ex players view of the game. People who understand that if you’re trying to play a ball and your foot rolls over or a players leg goes under your foot completely unaware to you, is a normal part of the game and shouldn’t be red cards. People who understand that jumping required you to used your arms to jump. People who understand what it’s like to have a football kicked at you from two yards away and how impossible it is to get your hand out the way and how your hand being up isn’t unnatural as you need to keep your balance.

    Too many refs haven’t a fucking clue about the actual physical actions of playing football and all they seem to care about are the literal interpretation of the law rather than applying the laws with a degree of common sense or understanding of how the games played.

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    11 months ago

    Is there any evidence that referees from abroad are better? Can’t say that’s something I’ve noticed - in Spain Lahoz is apparently one of their best and he’s worse than any in England

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      11 months ago

      Not evidence, but statistically it’s likely that if you make a poule of the world’s 50 best referees that the majority of them will not be English since the English only constitute a small % of the footballing world’s population