Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders said Sunday he doesn’t know that a ceasefire is possible in the Israel-Hamas war with “an organization like Hamas” involved.

“I don’t know how you can have a ceasefire, (a) permanent ceasefire, with an organization like Hamas, which is dedicated to turmoil and chaos and destroying the state of Israel,” Sanders told CNN’s Dana Bash on “State of the Union” Sunday.

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    No, Israel needs to allow elections.

    They steal the supplies and then they sell them back to Palestinians (and smuggle them out) for cash.

    Then it’s a supply problem. If significantly more aid is allowed in and distributed freely, there won’t be much profit to be made.

    The Palestinians will kill your troops and use your aid dollars to reward the families of those who do so.

    How do they do that? They’ve currently got about 1100 calories per person and have had very little water for the last six weeks. The troops are well supplied, armed, and armored. There might be an occasional ied attack, but Palestinians are not going to mount a significant resistance against UN troops distributing aid fairly among the people.

    Ultimately, there are plenty of starving, impoverished people in the world and limited aid dollars from the West.

    That could be said about any group of people. Unfortunately, the less money and infrastructure people have, the more money it takes to get them independent, so the places that need aid most will be the least “efficient” uses of that money.

    The West has invested like 6 per capital Marshall Plans into the Gaza Strip and it’s been squandered. How much more should we waste before we decide to help people that will use that aid to better themselves?

    Literally as much as people are willing to give, which is a lot. How can we watch people starved and oppressed to the point of desperation for decades, then turn our backs because they’re… acting out of desperation? People need basic security before they can make long term decisions, so punishing them for not having security is barbaric.

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      How can we watch people starved and oppressed to the point of desperation for decades, then turn our backs because they’re… acting out of desperation? People need basic security before they can make long term decisions, so punishing them for not having security is barbaric.

      The naivety of this statement is that there is a shortage of aid dollars around the world. A dollar spent in the Gaza Strip supporting organized rape, and Jew killing is a dollar not spent in Costa Rico, Guatemala or Haiti building Jungle proof infrastructure that will be used by the locals to peacefully trade and coexist with its neighbors. Every dollar the UNWRA gives to the Strip is a dollar not going to people in poverty who won’t embezzle it for warfare.

      There’s actual, peaceful people living in poverty who would use these aid dollars for the betterment of themselves, their families, their communities and their nation. People living in open multi-party democracies. People who don’t believe that a child molestor for 15 hundred years ago entitles them to kill their neighbors. It’s barbaric choosing to continually find the second group over the first.

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        You realize lots of people want to give the Palestinians money, but not Haitians, Guatemalans, or Costa Ricans? If you’d like to hold a Red Cross donation tour, you’re welcome to, but that’s not the same pool of money available for Palestine.

        What follows is a bunch of unsurprising anti Islamic sentiment that I’m not responding to.

        Enjoy your life.

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          You realize lots of people want to give the Palestinians money, but not Haitians, Guatemalans, or Costa Ricans? If you’d like to hold a Red Cross donation tour, you’re welcome to, but that’s not the same pool of money available for Palestine.

          Most of the aid going to Palestine (both the Gaza Strip and West Bank) comes from government entities and not individuals. Honestly, the impact of individual donations is notable but not significant in the grand scheme of things. If public entities stopped providing funds, depending on the estimates, Palestine would lose 80% of its aid dollars. The US can absolutely choose to fund other nations instead of Palestine. And we (the US) have in part done so with things like Taylor Force Act which has cut about $0.5B in aid to the Palestinian Authority since 2018 because of its Marty Fund paying out when they killed an American.

          What follows is a bunch of unsurprising anti Islamic sentiment that I’m not responding to.

          None of what I said is anti-Islamic in the slightest.