This community is (still) looking for moderators!

Requirements:

  1. You’re not a racist, homophobe, transphobe, Pro-C MAP, etc.
  2. Occasional activity on Burggit. Ideally this would be posts here, but anything else that indicates activity would also work.

I am specifically looking for someone to moderate noncon/rape stuff. If anyone’s willing to moderate ryona, I’m also willing to unban it (as long as there’s no opposition). If you would like to apply, leave a comment below.

EDIT: Please keep the comments for applications or questions. If you want to decry the fact that I’m not accepting Pro-C MAPs as mods, do it somewhere else. The [META] tag exists for a reason.

  • SomeRandomAccount@burggit.moeOPM
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    It’s more than that, and to pretend it isn’t is disingenuous.

    It still includes the “adults should be able to have sex with children” part, and that’s the part I take issue with. Also, considering that the ‘C’ stands for “Contact”, it’s hard to believe.

    Society believes that minors… can’t consent, and that even consensual sex between minors is rape

    This is definitely a problem, and some states have so-called Romeo and Juliet laws for situations like this. As somewhat of an aside, isn’t the age of consent below 18 in some countries (iirc it’s still 16 in some states)?

    Do you really think this is acceptable?

    No

    Being a Pro-C MAP is about advocating for their rights, because no one else will.

    There are people advocating for their rights, which is why we have things like Romeo and Juliet laws. Maybe you believe that it’s not enough or that there should be more advocacy, and I don’t think I’d disagree with that. But no part of minors’ rights implies “adults should be able to have sex with children”, nor is it a necessary position to take to advocate for minors.

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      It still includes the “adults should be able to have sex with children” part, and that’s the part I take issue with. Also, considering that the ‘C’ stands for “Contact”, it’s hard to believe.

      Contact stance isn’t really about current society, it’s about whether or not you would agree with a future where it’s destigmatized.

      This is definitely a problem, and some states have so-called Romeo and Juliet laws for situations like this.

      Romeo and Juliet laws don’t exist everywhere, and would likely be ignored if the parents made a big enough complaint.

      As somewhat of an aside, isn’t the age of consent below 18 in some countries (iirc it’s still 16 in some states)?

      Yes, but even then, people are looked down upon for it, even if they’re close in age (16 and 18). People even look down upon adults for just being friends with people under 18, it’s getting to be ridiculous. There’s also the people who call out “pedophilia” when adults are in age gap relationships with adults, but that’s a whole 'nother can of worms.

      But no part of minors’ rights implies “adults should be able to have sex with children”

      If they want to, they should be allowed to, and that’s something that should be up to them to decide, not the people around them. If they choose to have sex with someone, let them. If they don’t that’s fine too. But it shouldn’t arbitrarily be illegal for them to have a relationship with someone older than them.

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        Contact stance isn’t really about current society, it’s about whether or not you would agree with a future where it’s destigmatized.

        This definitely isn’t the case for all Pro-Cs, and doesn’t really affect my point.

        But it shouldn’t arbitrarily be illegal for them to have a relationship with someone older than them.

        It’s not arbitrary, it’s based on the notion that children can’t consent.

        Ultimately, you’re not going to change my stance on this. I will not appoint a Pro-C MAP as a moderator on the grounds that I won’t work with someone who thinks children can consent (in either a real or hypothetical society).

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          I’ll just say the notion itself that children can’t consent is arbitrary. There’s a threshold of mental maturity required for consent somewhere, but age isn’t a very good proxy for that and its use ends up resulting in many children above said threshold, as well as many adults below it. Romeo and Juliet laws just shove the arbitrariness into everyone’s face.

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            It’s arbitrary in the sense that hitting a certain age doesn’t all of a sudden mean you can consent, though in the case of literal children (i.e. < 13) I think it’s pretty clear cut.

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                  Lmao, so instead of considering the idea that maybe my beliefs actually do fall in line with yours, you jump to the conclusion that I’m a monster that shouldn’t have even been interacted with.

                  You can just admit that you’re a hypocrite lol. From the eyes of the rest of the world, you and I are no different :)

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                    Sorry, I thought you replied to a different post (specifically this one). I thought you were referring to when I first added you as a mod.

                    To clarify my comment (the one you were actually replying to), I didn’t mean to imply that at age 13 it becomes less clear-cut (though technically I suppose it does). I’d say it’s still pretty clear-cut at 13 & 14, pretty clear-cut at 15, and that at ~16 it starts to be reasonable. Also, people of similar age can definitely consent with each other (even if it’s not not necessarily a good idea for them to do so).

                    I’ll admit that I assumed that you being Pro-C meant that you believe that adults should be able to have sex with children, and if that’s not generally the case, I apologize.