• ThePac@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    How anybody flies without noise-canceling headphones these days is beyond me.

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      I just had a 9 hour flight where both bathrooms were plugged and aisles were completely covered in puke because this kid got so sick, and refused to throw up into a bag. Every time he got sick he ran from his mom and threw up somewhere else on the plane

      Left flight with puke on my backpack and shoes. Whole back of the plane was vomiting throughout the flight due to the smell. Nobody could use the bathrooms for the last 3 hours of the flight. Even two of the stewardesses were crying by the end

      My noise cancelling headphones were not effective

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      Overpriced. And then you need them for every member of the family :)

      And they also might not work well enough

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      They’re good at cancelling out deep grumbling noises but purposely let through high tones so users can hear fire / safety alarms ringing. Unfortunately baby’s screaming is more similar to the latter and cuts right through to your ears

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      One of the best things about moving here from the bad place was how their senseless, rabid hatred of young people didn’t carry over. It’s heartbreaking to see sentiments like this starting to spread.

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        I definitely recommend revisiting this post about 12 hrs later. It’s kind of wild in here. Saw a comment with 19 upvotes referring to children as “cum pets.”

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          I don’t think I could bear it. Activism for the rights and freedoms of young people has been such a big part of my life for such a long time that that kind of anti-child attitude burns my soul.

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    1 year ago

    Spends hundreds of euros on a flight. Cant buy a noise cancelling heqdphone or earphone. I kinda assume a babys gonna cry when i fly because 200 people closed in an aluminium cylinder together isnt the most pleasant experience.

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      Noise cancelling headphones don’t work against babies. They are designed for cancelling ambient sound by playing frequencies to cancel out the noise, but can’t predict sudden noises like children crying very well. Earplugs or earbuds do a better job at drowning those out by plugging your ears from outside noises

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          Cause they are entitled parents that think just because they can content with their own child, everyone else around them should too.

          It is not like they are the ones using noise cancelling headphones in planes.

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            Hey dipshit. Why do you feel entitled to be in public when your redditor neckbeard stench permeates the entire area around you? Why do you feel entitled to be alive when the natural response to psychopaths like you who can not even muster some empathy for literal babies is to put you down?

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    This is one of those things I see people complain about everyone complaining. Like vegans or CrossFit people. I’ve met far more people complaining about complaints than actual incidents.

    Most of us get it. It’s kids. I’ve seen obviously not emotional support animals brought in by asshats. Kids aren’t my concern.

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      Kids these days (Yes, I said that unironically) can’t be assed to deal with any amount of discomfort. They’ve had a childhood of screens put in front of them so they don’t have to deal with boredom and other shit that just ruins a person’s ability to operate in society.

      Grow the fuck up and deal with it.

      EDIT: So apparently people are reading this like I’m talking about the crying babies. I’m talking about the ridiculous, pseudo-child-free adults who can’t believe a baby might have trouble while flying and god forbid they should hear it cry.

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        FYI the younger ones are screaming because of pain from the inner ear air pressure changes that they don’t know how to prevent.

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          JFC are people really understanding my take as blaming the fucking babies? The whole “kids these days” was a tongue-in-cheek reference to the adults in the plane complaining about the babies.

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            nah, lad, people are most likely understanding exactly what ya meant and they’re downvoting because of that. also the ‘pseudo-childfree’ mention might also be bothersome to some, what with it suggesting said lifestyle might be just a phase and thus claiming to have the absolute truth and such things. pretty sure parents would downvote a childfree person for suggesting a pseudo-parent notion.

            but I’m 2 ales and a barleywine in already, so YMMV

            this thread is entertaining though, for what it’s worth. I just want to see the fuckcarspeople get involved here as well, 'cause it’s getting kind of repetitive

            why isn’t there a fuckplanes community, I wonder? I mean they still use leaded fuel and are probably making us all stupider and more violent and stuff

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    Please don’t fly with your kids, especially babies, and if you do, please for the love of all that might be holy, don’t do it in business and first class!

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        Here are some reasons for business class and first class:

        • Certainly treated better by staff when flights are delayed or cancelled - They took excellent care of my wife and her food and lodging needs when her flight was disrupted by a volcanic eruption at her intended destination.
        • The airline lounge - food, drinks and comfortable places to wait while stuck at airports
        • More and heavier checked bag allowance - Super important if bringing things to family
        • Laying down on long international flights to sleep
        • Most importantly, if you are a person of colour or disabled, the staff treat you a hell of a lot better - Shouldn’t have to pay more to be treated like a human being, but on a lot of airlines, you do

        So it’s not a waste, especially when my wife is flying alone 7600km, 10,500km, and even 11,700km as both a person of colour and a disabled person to deal with family tragedies. For you to want to screw with people for that… Yeah, don’t care for you.

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          Thanks for explaining to everybody why you deserve to be treated better than everyone else because you have more money.

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            I don’t. Paycheck to paycheck. Learn to use the tools of airline mile programs, credit cards with points, and airline mileage affiliate programs. Use your brain, not your money.

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              K I did all that and decided with my brain I’m gonna bring my kid too and I don’t give a shit if the rich assholes in first class complain even if they insist they’re “paycheck to paycheck” after airing a list of grievances about how they hate having to interact with plebs on an airplane.

              I mean seriously you said in another post rich people own planes. If everybody who doesnt own a plane isn’t rich I’m gonna go ahead and say you’re completely out of touch.

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    I don’t think hours of noise canceling headphones are a realistic solution for everyone, like people with autism or sensitive ears.

    What we should have is a “children’s section” in the back of the plane. If your party only contains adults, then you can only book in the adult section until it’s filled, and same with parties that have kids. Parents don’t want to disrupt everyone, but imagine this on a longer bus or train ride!

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      When I bring my whole family somewhere I almost always book the farthest back on the plane I can. There doesn’t have to be specific sections… just people with common courtesy.

      but one thing I’m noticing as a common theme in these threads is that there’s an innate blame on the children/parents. Kids oftentimes CANNOT pop their ears due to how narrow their Eustachian tubes are. https://kidshealth.org/en/parents/flying-ears.html There can be cases where the baby’s ears actually tear if the Eustachian tubes are blocked due to a cold or something of that nature.

      The better answer is to just educate them in a friendly manner. If you do it tactfully then maybe junior will simmer down and everyone can move on without this passive aggressiveness we see in the photo. Giving the kid a bottle (if they’re that young) is often all that needs to happen to work the tubes open a little bit to relieve the pain.

      Now… if you’re a parent… and have a colicky little one… skip the plane if you can. You know your kid. If they’re not going to take to the plane well, then you’re just being a dick to everyone around you.

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        Anecdotally my spouse and I know this; our kids are just extremely energetic. We aren’t simply uneducated on how ears work, and getting unsolicited tips from childless people while already busy with our kids is just another stressor.

        Call me a dick if you want, but sometimes flying noisily is the only practical option. No we’re not going to drive cross country to grandma’s funeral.

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    Repulsion at the thought of sharing space with the most vulnerable humans literally unable to communicate or control their emotions is a sign of a deeply sick society

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        30 years ago, when I was a child, my father was in the US Army. Because of that, we relocated all over the country every two years or so. We did NOT have the choice of whether or not to bring my baby brother onto the plane we couldn’t even afford ourselves because the move was paid for by the Army. They say jump, you say “how high?”.

        You don’t know every situation. And after 41 years of life, I don’t pretend to know what someone else’s situation is either. So I generally let dumb shit like this slide now. It’s not important enough to get worked up over.

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          Then it is up to the US army to prepare a plane. You and your brother can sit next to the soldiers.

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            That’s not how reassignments work if you have a family. You don’t travel with a pack of grunts. You do it as a family on a civilian airline like everyone else.

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    Maybe it’s different in the USA, but I’ve travelled a lot and don’t think I ever remember a long haul flight without multiple babies and young children. It’s just a fact of travelling.

    I recently did a 16hr flight solo and the other 3 seats in my row of 4 were parents and a toddler.

    That’s just part of flying and you should plan for it (noise cancelling headphones, sleeping tablets, ear plugs).

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      European flights are full of kids. It’s just the “child free” movement are very vocal and feel extremely entitled.