Former President Barack Obama cautioned against ignoring the complexities of the Israel-Hamas war, warning that “all of us are complicit.”

“If you want to solve the problem, then you have to take in the whole truth. And you then have to admit nobody’s hands are clean, that all of us are complicit to some degree,” he said in an excerpted interview with Pod Save America released Saturday.

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    Both sides may have fault however there is a fundamental difference between Israel and Hamas. Hamas is a relatively small terrorist group from a region (Gaza) that has been oppressed and had food, water, and electricity limited (even before the war). Meanwhile Israel has one of the largest militaries and occupies Gaza. The death toll and injuries are not even compatible nor the sheer scale of the war crimes committed by Israel.

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      Have you considered that if Gaza didn’t have terrorist groups they might a functioning society and government?

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          That’s incorrect. The existence of the terrorist groups are the result of Resolution 181 and the ensuing war that established the modern day boundaries of Israel, the West Bank, and Gaza.

          The continued support for these terrorists groups has been bolstered in part by the heavy-handed tactics of Israel and the animosity between Israel and regional powers, but the original sin here was the British (and much of the western world) cowtowing to Zionists to create a theoretical two-state solution from scratch and overlaying it on an existing mixed-background area known as Palestine.

          There are a lot of movie parts here, but the simple enmity between hardline Muslims and hardline Jews predates pretty much everyone currently alive on this planet.

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          Well, given that the reason Gaza is occupied is because of the terrorist groups, I think order of operations is somewhat disputed.

          This is 70 years of tit for tat. My point is that both parties here are wrong.

          There is no good or bad guy, just two bad guys.

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            The reason why Gaza is colonized is because Palestinians didn’t want to split their land with a European settler colonialists. They resisted Israeli domination and lost.

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              if you are looking at a genocide and taking the idiots position of ‘but my both sides bad’ you don’t deserve to have an opinion

              fuck off to your couch you fucking bitch

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        Maybe if israeli hardliners didn’t support the founding of Hamas and assassinate Rabin they could have reached a peaceful solution almost 20 years ago?