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The Endlösung of the Palestinian question.
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“population transfer” Is a very strong euphemism for genocide and mass displacement.
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The US media will ignore this blatant call for ethnic cleansing and paint Israel as the good guys in this. The mask has come off the West’s colonialist support for this racist apartheid state.
It’s been off
This is a continuation of the ethnic cleansing that Israel has carried out for the past 70 years. No big surprise.
Israel has roughly 2.000.000 Arabian citizens. They descent from 156.000 Arabs who stayed in Israel after 1948. This must be the least successful ethnic cleansing of all time!
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Theoretically sure, but the discrepancy makes it problematic to speak of of ethnic cleansing in this case. If you steal land for the purpose of getting land, you’re probably still committing a crime, but it’s not ethnic cleansing because the intend is something different. E.g. greed or the desire to ensure your safety by holding a strategic position (that’s why Israel took the Golan heights).
The Palestinian population has similar numbers. Their growth exploded over the last 70 years to present day numbers. Worst genocide ever.
What an idiotic comment. It’s like saying the Armenian genocide didn’t happen because there are more Armenians now than before.
You may want to look up what a genocide is. It definitely does not require the complete extermination of a people, even by the self serving UN definition.
And the population of the Uyghurs was rapidly on the rise until just a few years ago - especially compared to the Han-Chinese population. That is not an ethnic cleansing as well then, right?
Well given that there were 700000 Arabs who had to flee out of fear of getting murdered (or because they were directly ordered to flee by the IDF’s predecessors), I’d say they were pretty successful.
That’s some interesting revisionist history. They were told they’d be able to return after the surrounding nations destroyed the newly formed Israel… that backfired and the surrounding nations refused to take on the refugees they created. Womp womp.
That’s the find out part that comes after fucking around. Seems like that lesson wasn’t learned so they’re back for more. Sucks for all the people who just want peace.
They were told they’d be able to return after the surrounding nations destroyed the newly formed Israel… that backfired and the surrounding nations refused to take on the refugees they created.
So you’re saying Israel did not massacre or expel Palestinians? I suggest reading Benny Morris (a Zionist Israeli historians)'s four-stage analysis of the Palestinian diaspora. Hint: Most of them were fleeing for their lives or actively ordered to flee by the IDF’s predecessors, as I said above.
I’m not saying a war didn’t happen. Both sides were displaced and communities attacked from north to south by both.
What I’m saying is many Arabs, hundreds of thousands of them left willingly and under the direction of the surrounding Arab Nations under the promise of being able to return once Israel was destroyed.
It’s not Israel’s fault they’re still waiting. Many Arabs who didn’t leave, still live there in peace accounting for nearly 20% of the country’s population.
Had they not left, had Israel not been attacked by 5 countries at once kicking off generations of warring, who knows if we would have seen peace. The Israelis were open to the partition plan, it’s the Arabs that weren’t and that’s the unfortunate reality they’ve left Palestinians with ever since.
What I’m saying is many Arabs, hundreds of thousands of them left willingly and under the direction of the surrounding Arab Nations under the promise of being able to return once Israel was destroyed.
It’s not Israel’s fault they’re still waiting. Many Arabs who didn’t leave, still live there in peace accounting for nearly 20% of the country’s population.
Are you even reading what I said? Most of these people left because they either (rightly given the sheer number of massacres) feared for their lives or were actively expelled.
Away with your logic, here we are convinced that Israel is literally Hitler.
Israel is in Asia and not in Europe.
Egypt is not going to allow this. The simple fact of the matter is that Hamaz is a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood, which are openly hostile to the current Egyptian government. So the killing is going to continue.
Yes, Israel is in Asia, what’s with that?
you posted this in the europe community
There have been countless Israel posts on here. Also the extra activity on here can’t hurt. Why does the presence of this post bother you? Just scroll over it
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Why are you being so aggressive
Every country commissions these stratagram documents for different scenarios. It’s not surprising that Israeli government does the same. These documents are usually held quite secret, because they’re inflammatory, they go through many different scenarios, many of which are politically unpalatable.
What’s really interesting, is that this document was released now. Almost like it’s socializing the concept, testing the waters before the plan is committed with its allies.
And of that document option c appears to be being implemented right now in front of us.
Is the document genuine? Probably, I’ve seen sources from Canada Israel and other parties saying the document has been acknowledged by their sources.
Is the document itself a cause for concern? No.
Are the actions we’re seeing in real time, and the timing of the release of the document concerning? Very much so.
Everything hinges on Egypt’s cooperation. And I don’t know how Israel is going to compel that.
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I agree with your point.
So I don’t want us to get stuck down in the semantic weeds, but I promise you every government has strategic documents going through different scenarios, including the usefulness of war crimes to achieve goals.
I.e. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_color-coded_war_plans
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Maybe we’re watching a constructed drama unfold in real time?
Bombings for a couple weeks, escalate the humanitarian situation, have Egypt come in saying oh we’ll take care of the refugees. But make them look reluctant about it. Even though they’re getting some compensation on the other side. Then open the border while continuing the bombing. To get as many civilians to run out of the territory as quickly as possible.
Could be
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Egypt is reluctant because Palestinians refugees have caused trouble before in their country, the economy isn’t doing well and they have high unemployment at the moment—that’s three good reasons to be reluctant that make sense.
The existence of the document does not necessarily indicate that its recommendations are being considered by Israel’s defense establishment. Despite its name, the Intelligence Ministry is not directly responsible for any intelligence body, but rather independently prepares studies and policy papers that are distributed to the Israeli government and security agencies for review, but are not binding.
So what
