• Deceptichum@kbin.social
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    Yeah, I give individuals leeway when it comes to breaking the “law” because they’re often just trying to survive.

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        Having “law enforcement” rife with literal gangs, selectively enforcing the laws, and writing laws that benefit a few wealthy individuals at the expense of everyone else is how you create people who don’t respect your imaginary made up bullshit laws.

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          The cops don’t make the laws, they just enforce the ones written by the people we elect. Don’t like it? Get elected and change it.

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            Overall, cops tend to selectively enforce laws mainly against poor people, and do fuck-all about corruption and psychopathy in their own ranks. They’re trained to be trigger-happy schizophrenics with a fetish for authority, and taught that it is ok and desirable to defend that insecure god image at all costs, including others’ dignity, rights, and even lives. Basic social norms of respect don’t even make it to the conversation.

            Saying cops don’t make the law is as facetious as saying the supreme court doesn’t. They technically don’t, but they do get to decide when and how to enforce them, if at all. Very ripe for the corruption we’ve actually been seeing.

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        Good.

        Fuck the “law”, a set of rules designed to keep the power of the elites at the people’s expense.

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          And who decides the good law and the bad law? The only ones allowed to do that are the courts, not the court of public opinion. Not to mention yours is not a popular opinion.

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            Yes exactly.

            The courts and the laws they create are by a class of people untouchable to us. They are laws to rule us, not for us to live.

            The law is not for the people and should not be respected.

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              Ah yes, anarchy. The worst form of government quickly devolving into warlords. Are you 12?

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                No one mentioned anarchy.

                And frankly if you’re so unknowledgeable that you think anarchy means a complete lack of rules or order, there’s no point continuing this conversation because you obviously lack even basic understanding of politics.

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                  That’s what happens when people stop following the rules. It doesn’t matter what rules you think shouldn’t be followed. If you stop following some you stop following all.

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                    So you think when people stop following the states laws, that they will instead get together as a community and work out a set of rules for living together as we have done for hundreds of thousands of years?

                    Because that’s what anarchism is, empowering communities at the people level to make these decisions for themselves.