• VitoRobles@lemmy.today
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    1 month ago

    A reminder that suicide is never the answer.

    Especially if you’re part of the military. There’s bigger fish out there that put you in this situation. And that pain is temporary.

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    1 month ago

    I was going to say that was suspiciously low…

    The rate of suicide attempts among the Lincoln strike group’s sailors was roughly consistent with that of the entire active duty Navy in 2024, the most recent year for which the Pentagon has released suicide data. That year, the Navy saw 356 suicide attempts among its estimated 337,000 active duty sailors.

    It being the same rate as active navy is a huge red flag it’s a bullshit number.

    If they had said “same rate as deployed sailors” it wouldn’t be as obvious of a lie. But still unlikely.

    Either not all attempts got reported at every level (they never do) or there is a real number that made it to the top and this guy lied.

    “SAD” (suicidal and depressed) isn’t uncommon on land, but massively scales up even on a short couple weeks at sea. Months with no end in sight…

    It’s getting everyone to some extent.

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      1 month ago

      What happens when service members attempt? Like their careers are obviously over, but like, do you just throw them in the brig and hope they don’t bang their head against the wall?

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        1 month ago

        What happens when service members attempt? Like their careers are obviously over

        Nope

        Most of the time people pretend it just didn’t happen…

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            1 month ago

            Those are the intended consequences…

            A suicide makes the command look bad, but so does attempts. So they don’t report attempts, and hope the person keeps it together while at that command.

            All that matters is the metrics because that’s all that goes up the chain of command. So they hide attempts that are hidable, even people saying they’re gonna do it. I had a buddy that bought the shotgun, told medical, and they told him to wait two weeks and see if the thoughts went away before he could get any type of treatment.

            Like, that was nuclear engineering school and about as bad as it could get, but the command was 100% willing to roll the dice on him not following thru, even tho less than 2 months before that a security guard (also active duty) had blew his brains out with his AR15 5 feet from our training building door.

            It’s like fight club, there is an acceptable number of deaths, and they did the math and realized a suicidal person would eventually flunk out and that didn’t count as a black mark against the command like a suicide did. By their math, it was better to say “X students tried to kill themselves” than “X students had to leave training from the stress of the program”.

            Because they’d have to fix the amount of stress in training if they were honest about what was really happening

            Same shit happens anywhere stress is applied, and that’s the whole time someone’s out to see.

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              1 month ago

              What happens when the suicidal turns murder then? That’s happened on numerous occasions on bases in the states?