When pretty much every aspect of our lives relies on machines, from PC to Servers, to Laptops, to Cell phone, and all the sites on the net. (no offense lemmy.world). Kind of seems a little bit late now to put in safe guards.

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    Do you really need to ask the question why people that are being opressed are concerned about their oppressors gaining more powerful tools of oppression?

    Might as well walk up to a slave in the 1800s and say “why are you so worried about that big shipment of new enhanced whips and chains that just arrived? They are just tools that make the farm more productive and more food and cotton are only be a good thing”

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      I don’t believe OP genuinely wants the answers to any of the questions. They’re just bait to encourage activity in the community. Whether that’s a good or bad thing is up to you

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    They aren’t. Its not even fear. We know what the men that control the machines want, and we dont want that.

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      It’s amusing that people think they can stop AI at this point.

      Even if they managed to destroy every datacenter in the US or Europe, it would still get built. AI doesn’t really care where it runs, it’s not reliant on being located somewhere specific except in the most real-time scenarios like voice calls.

      Not to mention the fact that functional AI can be run on a semi-expensive gaming computer these days.

      The only path to zero AI is through zero connected technology, you’d have to destroy the internet itself and that shit’s quite literally in outer space at this point.

      People need to figure out how to live with it at this point.

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        Not to mention the fact that functional AI can be run on a semi-expensive gaming computer these days.

        Oh. Well, I guess that explains the need for data centers, then? smh.

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          What is even your point with this statement? Are you complaining about AI use? Are you trying to imply that AI is bad still?

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        No, people need to learn how to live without it. By far it does more harm than it does good in almost every case. Use it if you like, you won’t know what to do when it fails you, and it absolutely will. If you want to regress to being an ignorant ape, have at it. Those of us who are willing, able, and curious enough to understand the world will run circles around you when you’ve forgotten how to tie your own shoes. When it costs you a year’s wage to have it tell you how to write your own name, assuming you have a wage, don’t come looking for help.

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          To be fair though, they also said that about the Internet, and TV, and radio, and books.

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            And they were usually right. Books shortened our active memories. TV and Radio both hurt our ability to discern truth from fiction, and the internet has, very much been a mixed bag. That doesn’t mean we stopped using them, but we got better at limiting what we used them for. Eventually we tended to set up guard rails to limit our reliance on these tools, but I stand by my statement, to use AI effectively, we need to figure out what not to use it for, which is anything you value knowing how to do for yourself, anything you expect to be done right the first time, and anything that is more than just busy work, and you should probably take the time to do some of that yourself too, just to stay in practice, for the many, many times the clanker is going to screw it up on you.

            Look, ultimately, I’m not against AI, I think it’s fine. As a tool. Which it is. I do not trust the companies building it, selling it, or promoting it, their products are dangerous and they’re going to hurt people, but the tool existing is not a problem, if you don’t let yourself depend on it, which is all too easy to do, and if we start creating real consequences for people who are using it recklessly or maliciously. And I do mean very real consequences.

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        Aren’t the data centers mainly for training the AI? I mean, as far as I know, this is the most processing intensive step in the whole existence of AI.

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          Nope, Usage inference passed training for usage last year some time and has continued to skyrocket comparatively.

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    Kind of seems a little bit late now to put in safe guards.

    “In stage four we say maybe there’s something we could’ve done but-it’s too late now” (Yes, Prime Minister - Foreign Office Crisis Management - the four stages)

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      lol I’ve seen this guys (these guys’s? the profile says its being used by multiple people?) posts before and I’ve thought “is this person serious? Should I block them?” every time I’ve seen their posts. Seems like my hunch was correct.

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        Who knows what the story really is. Whatever the case, I thought some of their early posts were pretty amusing in a sort of ‘zen idiot’ way, but to me it started drifting in to borderline trollishness at a certain point. It’s hard for me to imagine any adult or near-adult plugged in to the internet in 2026 so completely clueless as in the OP. So bye bye, Donnie…

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          Yeah thats how I thought about it. Like, one such silly post every now and then is good fun etc. But if the whole account is just being a clueless dummy “just asking questions” in bad faith, it gets tiring very fast. But yeah, that’s how I use the block list, remove annoyances.