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    I didn’t blame it all on Biden. I also blamed Harris and Obama, and if it wasn’t implied enough, I’m blaming the rest of the Democratic party, including their voters.

    You know who else blames the entirety of this situation on Biden in a staggeringly similar manner as you just did?

    Yeah, people who remember more than 6 months ago. People who were paying attention when Biden was stumbling around, fucking up the economy, sending people to torture prisons, and spending a lot of money on building out Trumps projects.

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      Yup, and one election cycle was going to change all of that. Progress does tend to happen just all at once, like a miracle from god.

      God damn, idealism is one hell of a drug.

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        Yes, you are correct. One election cycle could have changed all of that, if the Democrats actually wanted to fix it. They had 4 years, and a majority. But instead of fixing all of that, they quietly increase funding to things like ICE, torture prisons, and genocide.

        I love it when “stop bombing kids”, or “stop sending people to torture prisons”, or “stop bypassing Congress to spend money on Trumps projects” by the supposed opposition party is considered “idealism”.

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          You genuinely have no real grasp on the world we live in. Yeah, at this point in time, that is idealism. We get there the same way we got here, one bite at a time. You don’t change the programming of society in a blink without destroying the system entirely, and even then it’s still not how it works, there is nothing everyone universally agrees on and there never will be. Life, as they say, is a series of compromises. There is an inoperable lack of societal awareness and pragmatism to your ethos.

          Those who learn history are doomed to watch thise that don’t repeat it, as they say.

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            So the Democrats can’t just stop bombing kids, or torturing people, or supporting Trump because “there is nothing everyone universally agrees on and there never will be.”?

            “We gotta keep the child-murder machine going because waves hand at vague, abstract concepts that don’t actually mean anything, and has no supporting evidence. You just don’t know how to compromise with the child-murder machine that never compromises back. It’s idealism to think that we can do anything about that. Even when we have all the power.”

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              Yes, exactly. Progress is carved slowly with a dull knife, it refuses to be done any other way. Again, that’s how they got us here and it’s the only way out. That’s just how things work, no matter how hard you want to keep slamming your head into that wall. It’s not that I advocate for it, it’s just how things are. You can work to change things one at a time or you can get crushed by it. Realty doesn’t consider your ideals or morality.

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                Well, no, that’s now how it is. We could just stop bombing kids. I’ve gone my whole life without directly bombing anyone, and it’s been pretty easy to do. In fact, it seems to me that it’s a lot of work to bomb kids. Same with torturing people, same with supporting rapists.

                The fact that you think it’s hard to not bomb kids tells me a lot about your lack of understanding about how the world works.

                It’s not that I advocate for it, it’s just how things are.

                But you are advocating for that. You keep fighting against the people who are trying to stop it from happening.

                You can work to change things one at a time or you can get crushed by it.

                Or there’s another option that you keep refusing to consider: The Democrats could just say “Nah, we aren’t going to bomb kids”, and then actually stop.

                See, it’s really easy to do. I’m doing it right now!

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                  You leveling all of your anger and blame on me is nothing short of childish, be mad at the powers and systems in control, that’s what is resisting change and bombing children, I’m 100% on board with all the shit you’re saying. I’ve also mever bombed children. You’re being a hyperbolic kneejerk reactionary looking for an easy out and someone, anyone it would seem, to take all the blame. THAT IS SIMPLY NOT HOW THE WORLD WORKS. The picture is so much bigger than what you are painting it to be. Be more pragmatic. There is no quick or easy way out.

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                    You leveling all of your anger and blame on me is nothing short of childish, be mad at the powers and systems in control, that’s what is resisting change and bombing children, I’m 100% on board with all the shit you’re saying.

                    I keep saying “lets not bomb kids”, but you keep defending it, and the people who do it. If you are against it, why would you support them and the bombs they drop? Your the one saying “bombing kids is just practical for now”.