• Wanpieserino@lemm.ee
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      6 hours ago

      Europe. We have a history of stripping power from christianity, and we’ll continue till there’s nothing left if necessary.

      So yeah, just be powerless, it’s just a religion.

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        Europe has a history of stripping power from Christianity? Like, Europe Europe?

        Is this some other Europe I don’t know about? There may be an Europe I entirely missed somewhere, I suppose. Because the Europe I know took a millenia to marginally diminish the power of Christianity, and it only happened because of liberal democracy quietly supplanting spirituality for convenience. It was in no way, shape or form a political choice based on them “misbehaving”.

        I mean, even if that was true, which hah, nah, the places where the Catholic church is growing these days are in Africa and Asia. Stop making me have to lump Europeans with the gross ethnocentrism of USmericans.

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          I can’t really take it serious when Belgium is labeled as catholic Christianity majority.

          The majority of practicing religious people are Muslim.

          The churches are empty.

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            For one thing, Belgium is like 2% of the EU, so barely representative. For another, being actively practicing is less relevant than how much political influence is wielded and how many institutions are baked into the legal and political system to align with a particular worldview.

            And for another another, this isn’t about Europe (or the US) much at all. They matter way less than the countries trying to secure a semblance of civil rights in the context of an increasing interference from Western-originated religions using them as breeding grounds for retrograde conservatism.

            So you are very welcome to remain oblivious and pretend you have culturally overcome the footprint of Christianity (which again, hah, nah), but that has zero bearing on the relevance of these events.

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              Yeah sure it impacted our culture. But nobody believes in Christianity anymore. There’s a political party dying because they have Christian in their name. Their voters literally keep dying year after year.

              Haven’t really heard anyone talk about this religion the past 10 years.

              I’ve heard a lot about Islam though, because of immigrants. Like god damn these people actually still believe in a deity.

              Anyways, have fun with your religion stuff. Keep it out of belgium

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                Nobody around the tiny, itsy-bitsy, entirely irrelevant circle of people you talk to.

                I assure you plenty of people “believe in Christianity”, in Europe and particularly outside of Europe. Even more of them use Christianity as a political tool.

                Hey, you wanna know how many people “believe in Christianity”? This was Europe this last weekend, not believing in Christianity.

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                  Yeah, spain is a bit behind I suppose. So is Poland.

                  My neighbouring countries are France, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Germany and across the water we have the UK.

                  We happen to be the economic powerhouses of the EU too. So when we push for secularism, it has a bit more impact.

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                    Right.

                    I have to assume you’re outright trolling at this point, so we’re gonna leave it there.

                    Man, I REALLY hope you’re outright trolling. Mostly for your sake.