• xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 days ago

    because torturing people is evil and pointless.
    apparently your problem is sexual offenses, which is odd because i’d much rather be raped then murdered or tortured….
    at any rate:
    how many innocent people are convicted wrongly?
    (answer: a lot, but an unknowable amount… false confession is a big thing too).
    how many people accused of rape would allow themselves to be arrested without fighting to the death?
    (answer: none of them).
    how many rapists would just go ahead and murder their victim, since the consequences of murder and rape are the same, and might as well eliminate the witness?
    (all of them, now you’ve increased murder and decreased rape convictions).
    how many of these people you want to torture to death in some foreign desert are just pure evil and beyond and rehabilitation or redemption?
    (most of them are not pure psychopaths, but were raised in violent environments… everyone has potential to grow and change, even a rapist or pedophile… there are many such stories of people finding morality, having remorse, and spending the rest of their lives trying to improve the world).
    what about recidivism? don’t all of these violent people keep reoffending?
    (an incredibly complex problem, but prisons tend to not rehabilitate and just end up criminal college, making people worse, and loss of job opportunities on the outside makes crime more likely than before they went in…).
    many many many societies have tried killing criminals, cutting off hands, branding them, etc… it doesn’t reduce crime or eliminate a crime gene, it makes criminals much much worse….
    if i’m going to get my hands cut off for stealing bread but i’ll starve to death if i don’t get it, i will still steal it and kill anyone that tries to catch me….
    tl;dr if you treat humans like animals, you will make them act more like animals….

    and even discounting aaaalll of that, why is it better to ship them to another country to imprison them? we have prisons here….
    the one and ONLY reason to do that is to deny them their human rights, constitutional rights, and ability to appeal….

    • 𝓔𝓶𝓶𝓲𝓮@lemm.ee
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      3 days ago

      To be honest I am not so sure that rape is better than murder or torture. Not sure if I wouldn’t actually kill myself afterwards and believe me I am very mentally resistant person

      Quick death isn’t the most horrible thing under the sun, pain is pain whether rape or torture but rape leaves holes in the soul that will never heal. It destroys you as a person.

      On the outside you may still appear to walk, talk and eat but inside everything is dead, merely a shell remains. It is a death of sorts but without respite of nothingness

      All three seem like just words here on the internet but behind all three are incredibly terrible stories that we are not able to truly comprehend.